Hellebores

Although the hellebore season started weeks, if not months, ago they are still doing well in the garden.
Here are some Helleborus orientalis seedlings:

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Saori's picture

Sun, 02/12/2012 - 10:58pm

Trond, I will let you know when the seeds are ready. It will be probably late June to early July.

Hope your plants are protected under the snow! We've had a mild winter so far and lots of plants have started to grow. I'm a bit concerned about a potential coming cold snap which might kill the new shoots...

Michael J Campbell's picture

Sun, 02/19/2012 - 12:11pm

Some more Helleborus

cohan's picture

Sun, 02/19/2012 - 12:42pm

A really nice range! Do they all look about the same foliarly?

Sun, 02/19/2012 - 7:18pm

"foliarly"... try saying that fast three times. :D
(I already did, and was not successful.)

Always a good show, Michael!  :o

The botanist in me marvels at the variability of the stamens and structures that are the modified petals (sometimes given another name, depending on who you talk too).

Michael J Campbell's picture

Mon, 02/20/2012 - 1:49am
Quote:

Do they all look about the same foliarly?

All Ashwood hybs and much the same.

Michael J Campbell's picture

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 7:16am

Last few for this year.
Helleborus ashwood hyb
Helleborus ashwood hyb
Helleborus niger

Michael J Campbell's picture

Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:27pm

I am particularly pleased with that Niger,I have difficulty keeping that one in good condition. I don't think it likes our climate.

cohan's picture

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 4:30pm

You have a lot of nice ones, Michael! At work they are selling some Hellebores in the floral section- something simple- white flowers long petals, maybe niger.. I was wondering if it would be worthwhile trying to get one to plant out later-- but I'd have to keep it happy indoors for most of 3 months yet! Plus they are $20, and I'm cheap...lol but its probably the only time I'll see them in person (as temporary indoor flowers), I doubt if local nurseries are likely to carry them for outdoor planting in summer, with no flowers on them, though I guess I can watch for them...

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 9:26pm

We've had hellebores at the Home Depot for three springs now in our outdoor garden center, and two winters as indoor specimen flowering plants.  (Although they don't make nice looking plants for inside, in my opinion - to gangly.)  Nothing fancy - Royal Heritage, Ivory Prince and the like.  For the outdoor garden center, they must hold them in the cold cellar, because they are fresh blooming when we have them in May.

cohan's picture

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 9:46pm

I'd be happy if I could find some young plants in small pots for $5 or so, but I'm probably dreaming...lol I really don't like buying one plant of something, but at $20  I can't afford multiples (unlikely I'd buy even one).. I'd really rather have species than hybrids, but I'd take anything locally reasonable... probably have to wait for seed in the end anyway...lol

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 4:12am
cohan wrote:

I'd be happy if I could find some young plants in small pots for $5 or so, but I'm probably dreaming...lol I really don't like buying one plant of something, but at $20  I can't afford multiples (unlikely I'd buy even one).. I'd really rather have species than hybrids, but I'd take anything locally reasonable... probably have to wait for seed in the end anyway...lol

Try seed! Seeds germinate easily as long as they are fresh. You get nice plants in a couple of years!
They do sell Hellebores for Christmas here -  and always nameless expensive plants! Usually niger but also some others.

Saori's picture

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:33am
Hoy wrote:

Try seed! Seeds germinate easily as long as they are fresh. You get nice plants in a couple of years!

I agree with Trond! The seeds don't like to be dried out but if you sow them fresh, they germinate like weeds! ;D I have been trying to cross some of my plants and get some interesting colors and forms. We'll see how they turn out in a few years... :rolleyes:

Saori's picture

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:39am

Here are some more flowers... ;)

Saori's picture

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:40am

And the last batch for now... ;D

cohan's picture

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 11:00am

Thanks Trond and Saori- good to know they don't take forever from seed.. I think Kristl at Gardens North has offered some- a good source for any ephemeral seed since you know she handles it right! Any other seed sources you know of?
Saori- lots of beauties there!

Thu, 03/01/2012 - 3:37pm
cohan wrote:

Thanks Trond and Saori- good to know they don't take forever from seed.. I think Kristl at Gardens North has offered some- a good source for any ephemeral seed since you know she handles it right! Any other seed sources you know of?
Saori- lots of beauties there!

Cohan...the NARGS surplus seed exchange still has a number of selections! You should check it out...I ordered a bunch today!  ;D

Saori...Your anemone centered ones are so beautiful!!! And I do love the picotees as well!

Is anyone going to the Oregon Hardy Plant Society spring plant sale in April?? I'll be there as the American Primrose Society national show is going to be there at the same time. So I hope I'll be meeting some you left-coasters there!!

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 1:15am

Amy, I'm on the left coast too but unfortunately at the wrong continent!

Saori, you are ahead of me - both regarding plants that flower now and plants with different colours! I have a lot of small plants that I hope will flower this year or next.

Geo F-W's picture

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 9:53am

Wow Saori! What a great collection! I love 20 & 24!
But...Are you Saori on the Facebook group Heavenly Hellebores?  ;)

Some of Koen Van Poucke, Martine Lemmonier and Thierry Delabroye :

Geo F-W's picture

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 9:58am

A little more...

cohan's picture

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 10:45am

Some very interesting colours, Geoffrey!

Amy- I'm still not an actual NARGS member, the seed-ex would be the only reason to join (no clubs to attend near enough) so it hasn't happened yet...

Schier's picture

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:39am

cohan, Three years ago I managed to get 3 from Canadian Tire, I think it was.  I bought them about 6 weeks into the "garden centre season" and didn't pay too much, maybe $6.00 each? They aren't species which I would prefer, but what the heck ! I'm going to try some more from seed, but for now the ones I have are doing great ( at least I hope they still are .... ) and the flowers last for the longest time.  For all I know they may have turned up at Canadian Tire by mistake, but I'll check there again this year, just in case.

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 2:35pm

Geoffrey, yours are not bad either! You have some really nice gems there!

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 5:30pm
cohan wrote:

Some very interesting colours, Geoffrey!

Amy- I'm still not an actual NARGS member, the seed-ex would be the only reason to join (no clubs to attend near enough) so it hasn't happened yet...

Cohan...I would still encourage you to join NARGS for the seed-ex and the quarterly..but if that's not going to happen another way to get free Hellebore seed is to join the Hellebore group on Yahoo groups. They have a lively discussion and a free seed-ex. I get loads of great seed from this group from all over the country!! Give it a look-see. :D

Lori S.'s picture

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 5:46pm

Your hellebores are absolutely wonderful, Michael and Saori and Geoffrey! (Hope I didn't miss anyone there, in that beautiful parade of spring blooms.)  The doubles, bicolours, apricot tones, and the oh-so-dark ones are especially captivating to me!

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 7:08pm

Glorious flowers, Geoffrey!  That hybrid H. torquatus flower has the attraction of a double with the eloquence of a single!  :o  It looks like the plant inherited the beautiful foliage of the species, too.

I plan on hand pollinating my Helleborus purpurascens this season.  Protecting the pistil from contamination won't be as easy as Lillium spp.  If I am successful, I'll offer the seed them here on the Forum.  They open pollinated easily with lots of seed, so it should work.

Saori's picture

Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:05pm

Thanks everybody for the nice comments!

I've been enjoying looking at everyone's beautiful flowers.

Cohen, joining the NARGS is great! The Rock Garden Quarterly is really good and the seed exchange is wonderful! You will be amazed to see lots of very rare seeds that you won't find anywhere else.

Geoffrey, I love your collection! I especially like the pink flower with yellow nectaries! It must be one of Thierry's creations, right?

Geo wrote:

But...Are you Saori on the Facebook group Heavenly Hellebores?  ;)

Yes, I'm the same Saori. :P  Nice meeting here, as well! ;)

cohan's picture

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 7:54pm
AmyO wrote:

cohan wrote:

Some very interesting colours, Geoffrey!

Amy- I'm still not an actual NARGS member, the seed-ex would be the only reason to join (no clubs to attend near enough) so it hasn't happened yet...

Cohan...I would still encourage you to join NARGS for the seed-ex and the quarterly..but if that's not going to happen another way to get free Hellebore seed is to join the Hellebore group on Yahoo groups. They have a lively discussion and a free seed-ex. I get loads of great seed from this group from all over the country!! Give it a look-see. :D

Thanks, Amy- I should give the yahoo group a look :) I wouldn't  ask for seed coming into the group  without something to contribute though, but its okay, no hurry!

Saori's picture

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 9:34pm
cohan wrote:

Thanks, Amy- I should give the yahoo group a look :) I wouldn't  ask for seed coming into the group  without something to contribute though, but its okay, no hurry!

I donated tons of seeds last year to the Yahoo Group as well and lots of other people (including famous nursery people) did, too! There were some species seeds as well...

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 6:53am

Hellebores just getting started here in North East Scotland, so a treat to be able to enjoy all the marvelous selection being shown here... thanks, All!  8)

Geo F-W's picture

Sun, 03/04/2012 - 7:11am

Thank you all.

RickR wrote:

Glorious flowers, Geoffrey!  That hybrid H. torquatus flower has the attraction of a double with the eloquence of a single!  :o  It looks like the plant inherited the beautiful foliage of the species, too.

I plan on hand pollinating my Helleborus purpurascens this season.  Protecting the pistil from contamination won't be as easy as Lillium spp.  If I am successful, I'll offer the seed them here on the Forum.  They open pollinated easily with lots of seed, so it should work.

Absolutely Rick, this torquatus hybrid has the dissected foliage of the species (my favourite species I think), I love it, it's a Koen Van Poucke's selection, he has very beautiful species in his nursery garden (great form of dumetorum, viridis etc.).

Saori wrote:

Geoffrey, I love your collection! I especially like the pink flower with yellow nectaries! It must be one of Thierry's creations, right?

Geo wrote:

But...Are you Saori on the Facebook group Heavenly Hellebores?  ;)

Yes, I'm the same Saori. :P  Nice meeting here, as well! ;)

Yes indeed Saori, it's a Thierry's selection, I live near his nursery and I enjoy every year to go to its special Hellebore open days.
It's a pleasure to see your pics.

Michael J Campbell's picture

Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:07am

Helleborus Harvington double yellow

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 8:31am

And what do you call this one, Michael, Camellia-flowered? A gem it is!

Michael J Campbell's picture

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 3:05am

Perfection,  ;D ;D ;D

Michael J Campbell's picture

Tue, 03/13/2012 - 8:31am

Helleborus black. well it is almost black. ;D

cohan's picture

Tue, 03/13/2012 - 11:36am

Beautiful colour! and nice simple form

Tue, 03/13/2012 - 11:51am
Michael wrote:

Helleborus black. well it is almost black. ;D

Michael, you have a marvellous collection!
One seedling of mine is to flower for the first time in some days - it looks so far to be almost as black as this one! I'll take a picture later.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 3:14am

Mine are still frozen solid...no blooms until May.  I only have 7 selections so far but have 5 more on order for this spring.  I am starting to develop a love for them.

cohan's picture

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 5:23pm

I just got my first two- from the plants that were on sale as florist plants at the supermarket- they are really no good as florist plants unless you can sell them fast! The creamy flowers quickly turned green, then the leaves started to yellow...lol So they were marked down sharply, and when I asked if they expected to be chucking them soon, they said probably and gave me two...lol.. they are starting new leaves, so hopefully are healthy- though there was a lot of water in the plastic pot covers (stinky!!!!) now I just have to keep them healthy indoors for the looooong time till I can put them outside....

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:09pm

Cohan...Keep a close eye out for aphids!! The ones sold in bloom at supermarkets are so stressed they are aphid magnets!! :o

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:12pm
AmyO wrote:

Cohan...Keep a close eye out for aphids!! The ones sold in bloom at supermarkets are so stressed they are aphid magnets!! :o

I'll second that.  But aphids are easy to kill...

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:45pm

Helleborus niger is suddenly pushing forward withe buds expanding.  The form I grow is pink tinged when starting (now), aging to a strong pink color later on.

The plant always sets lots of seed, but no self-sown seedlings ever show up unless I give assistance, scratching in the seed when ripe.  When seed is sown "in situ", it germinates like weeds.  In the first photo, are clusters of 2-year seedlings, and the right-hand photo shows the first flowering from a 3-year old seedling.  In just several years scratching seed "in situ" I now have many hundreds of H. niger seedlings, probably too many, but an affordable and very doable way of increasing stock of one's plants.

cohan's picture

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 9:22pm
AmyO wrote:

Cohan...Keep a close eye out for aphids!! The ones sold in bloom at supermarkets are so stressed they are aphid magnets!! :o

I'll watch for that, thanks.. almost all of the old leaves are gone, just flower stems left.. I do agree with Rick though- as someone who has had to battle with mealybugs indoors for years, aphids are like a holiday...lol

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:07am

And I hope you have cut the flower/seed pod off.  Otherwise you'll just be draining energy from the plant to the seeds that probably won't be "healthy" anyway.

Tim Ingram's picture

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 8:48am

Those rounded flowers are what the famous hellebore breeders like Helen Ballard and Elizabeth Strangman aimed for. They also crossed plants generally in the garden, rather than greenhouses, so as a result developed good garden strains - but it must have been freezing and hard work at times so early in the year! Elizabeth Strangman repeated pollination several times to ensure good results, and chose the warmest days. The plants were dotted about the nursery marked with different coloured wools. Somehow nice to see this with all the beds of plants for sale in between - harks back to the small individual specialist nurseries of old, which would be nice to see more of again. Must go out and get some pictures, but I haven't many as striking as Michael's.

cohan's picture

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 11:43am
RickR wrote:

And I hope you have cut the flower/seed pod off.  Otherwise you'll just be draining energy from the plant to the seeds that probably won't be "healthy" anyway.

I'll take  a closer look, I don't think there is any seed forming, though I left the flower stems-- since the flowers have turned green, I assumed they are photosynthesizing!

Thu, 03/15/2012 - 1:55pm
McDonough wrote:

Helleborus niger is suddenly pushing forward withe buds expanding.  The form I grow is pink tinged when starting (now), aging to a strong pink color later on.

The plant always sets lots of seed, but no self-sown seedlings ever show up unless I give assistance, scratching in the seed when ripe.  When seed is sown "in situ", it germinates like weeds.  In the first photo, are clusters of 2-year seedlings, and the right-hand photo shows the first flowering from a 3-year old seedling.  In just several years scratching seed "in situ" I now have many hundreds of H. niger seedlings, probably too many, but an affordable and very doable way of increasing stock of one's plants.

Mark it is a nice form you grow! If you ever get too many seed . . . . . .

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