Although the hellebore season started weeks, if not months, ago they are still doing well in the garden.
Here are some Helleborus orientalis seedlings:
Although the hellebore season started weeks, if not months, ago they are still doing well in the garden.
Here are some Helleborus orientalis seedlings:
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Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 02/12/2012 - 10:58pmTrond, I will let you know when the seeds are ready. It will be probably late June to early July.
Hope your plants are protected under the snow! We've had a mild winter so far and lots of plants have started to grow. I'm a bit concerned about a potential coming cold snap which might kill the new shoots...
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 02/14/2012 - 1:47pmThanks, Saori.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 02/19/2012 - 12:11pmSome more Helleborus
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 02/19/2012 - 12:42pmA really nice range! Do they all look about the same foliarly?
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 02/19/2012 - 7:18pm"foliarly"... try saying that fast three times. :D
(I already did, and was not successful.)
Always a good show, Michael! :o
The botanist in me marvels at the variability of the stamens and structures that are the modified petals (sometimes given another name, depending on who you talk too).
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 02/20/2012 - 1:49amAll Ashwood hybs and much the same.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 7:16amLast few for this year.
Helleborus ashwood hyb
Helleborus ashwood hyb
Helleborus niger
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:22pmYou have many real gems, Michael!
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:27pmI am particularly pleased with that Niger,I have difficulty keeping that one in good condition. I don't think it likes our climate.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 02/29/2012 - 4:30pmYou have a lot of nice ones, Michael! At work they are selling some Hellebores in the floral section- something simple- white flowers long petals, maybe niger.. I was wondering if it would be worthwhile trying to get one to plant out later-- but I'd have to keep it happy indoors for most of 3 months yet! Plus they are $20, and I'm cheap...lol but its probably the only time I'll see them in person (as temporary indoor flowers), I doubt if local nurseries are likely to carry them for outdoor planting in summer, with no flowers on them, though I guess I can watch for them...
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 02/29/2012 - 9:26pmWe've had hellebores at the Home Depot for three springs now in our outdoor garden center, and two winters as indoor specimen flowering plants. (Although they don't make nice looking plants for inside, in my opinion - to gangly.) Nothing fancy - Royal Heritage, Ivory Prince and the like. For the outdoor garden center, they must hold them in the cold cellar, because they are fresh blooming when we have them in May.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 02/29/2012 - 9:46pmI'd be happy if I could find some young plants in small pots for $5 or so, but I'm probably dreaming...lol I really don't like buying one plant of something, but at $20 I can't afford multiples (unlikely I'd buy even one).. I'd really rather have species than hybrids, but I'd take anything locally reasonable... probably have to wait for seed in the end anyway...lol
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 4:12amTry seed! Seeds germinate easily as long as they are fresh. You get nice plants in a couple of years!
They do sell Hellebores for Christmas here - and always nameless expensive plants! Usually niger but also some others.
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:33amI agree with Trond! The seeds don't like to be dried out but if you sow them fresh, they germinate like weeds! ;D I have been trying to cross some of my plants and get some interesting colors and forms. We'll see how they turn out in a few years... :rolleyes:
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:39amHere are some more flowers... ;)
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 10:40amAnd the last batch for now... ;D
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 11:00amThanks Trond and Saori- good to know they don't take forever from seed.. I think Kristl at Gardens North has offered some- a good source for any ephemeral seed since you know she handles it right! Any other seed sources you know of?
Saori- lots of beauties there!
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 12:07pmBeautiful, Saori!
I am partial to the dark ones. :o
Amy Olmsted
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 3:37pmCohan...the NARGS surplus seed exchange still has a number of selections! You should check it out...I ordered a bunch today! ;D
Saori...Your anemone centered ones are so beautiful!!! And I do love the picotees as well!
Is anyone going to the Oregon Hardy Plant Society spring plant sale in April?? I'll be there as the American Primrose Society national show is going to be there at the same time. So I hope I'll be meeting some you left-coasters there!!
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 1:15amAmy, I'm on the left coast too but unfortunately at the wrong continent!
Saori, you are ahead of me - both regarding plants that flower now and plants with different colours! I have a lot of small plants that I hope will flower this year or next.
Geo F-W (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 9:53amWow Saori! What a great collection! I love 20 & 24!
But...Are you Saori on the Facebook group Heavenly Hellebores? ;)
Some of Koen Van Poucke, Martine Lemmonier and Thierry Delabroye :
Geo F-W (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 9:58amA little more...
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 10:45amSome very interesting colours, Geoffrey!
Amy- I'm still not an actual NARGS member, the seed-ex would be the only reason to join (no clubs to attend near enough) so it hasn't happened yet...
Schier (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:39amcohan, Three years ago I managed to get 3 from Canadian Tire, I think it was. I bought them about 6 weeks into the "garden centre season" and didn't pay too much, maybe $6.00 each? They aren't species which I would prefer, but what the heck ! I'm going to try some more from seed, but for now the ones I have are doing great ( at least I hope they still are .... ) and the flowers last for the longest time. For all I know they may have turned up at Canadian Tire by mistake, but I'll check there again this year, just in case.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 2:35pmGeoffrey, yours are not bad either! You have some really nice gems there!
Amy Olmsted
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 5:30pmCohan...I would still encourage you to join NARGS for the seed-ex and the quarterly..but if that's not going to happen another way to get free Hellebore seed is to join the Hellebore group on Yahoo groups. They have a lively discussion and a free seed-ex. I get loads of great seed from this group from all over the country!! Give it a look-see. :D
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 5:46pmYour hellebores are absolutely wonderful, Michael and Saori and Geoffrey! (Hope I didn't miss anyone there, in that beautiful parade of spring blooms.) The doubles, bicolours, apricot tones, and the oh-so-dark ones are especially captivating to me!
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 7:08pmGlorious flowers, Geoffrey! That hybrid H. torquatus flower has the attraction of a double with the eloquence of a single! :o It looks like the plant inherited the beautiful foliage of the species, too.
I plan on hand pollinating my Helleborus purpurascens this season. Protecting the pistil from contamination won't be as easy as Lillium spp. If I am successful, I'll offer the seed them here on the Forum. They open pollinated easily with lots of seed, so it should work.
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:05pmThanks everybody for the nice comments!
I've been enjoying looking at everyone's beautiful flowers.
Cohen, joining the NARGS is great! The Rock Garden Quarterly is really good and the seed exchange is wonderful! You will be amazed to see lots of very rare seeds that you won't find anywhere else.
Geoffrey, I love your collection! I especially like the pink flower with yellow nectaries! It must be one of Thierry's creations, right?
Yes, I'm the same Saori. :P Nice meeting here, as well! ;)
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 03/03/2012 - 7:54pmThanks, Amy- I should give the yahoo group a look :) I wouldn't ask for seed coming into the group without something to contribute though, but its okay, no hurry!
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 03/03/2012 - 9:34pmI donated tons of seeds last year to the Yahoo Group as well and lots of other people (including famous nursery people) did, too! There were some species seeds as well...
Margaret Young
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 6:53amHellebores just getting started here in North East Scotland, so a treat to be able to enjoy all the marvelous selection being shown here... thanks, All! 8)
Geo F-W (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 03/04/2012 - 7:11amThank you all.
Absolutely Rick, this torquatus hybrid has the dissected foliage of the species (my favourite species I think), I love it, it's a Koen Van Poucke's selection, he has very beautiful species in his nursery garden (great form of dumetorum, viridis etc.).
Yes indeed Saori, it's a Thierry's selection, I live near his nursery and I enjoy every year to go to its special Hellebore open days.
It's a pleasure to see your pics.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/08/2012 - 11:07amHelleborus Harvington double yellow
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 8:31amAnd what do you call this one, Michael, Camellia-flowered? A gem it is!
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 3:05amPerfection, ;D ;D ;D
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 03/12/2012 - 1:40amSeconded ;)
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 03/13/2012 - 8:31amHelleborus black. well it is almost black. ;D
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 03/13/2012 - 11:36amBeautiful colour! and nice simple form
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 03/13/2012 - 11:51amMichael, you have a marvellous collection!
One seedling of mine is to flower for the first time in some days - it looks so far to be almost as black as this one! I'll take a picture later.
Todd Boland
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 03/14/2012 - 3:14amMine are still frozen solid...no blooms until May. I only have 7 selections so far but have 5 more on order for this spring. I am starting to develop a love for them.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 03/14/2012 - 5:23pmI just got my first two- from the plants that were on sale as florist plants at the supermarket- they are really no good as florist plants unless you can sell them fast! The creamy flowers quickly turned green, then the leaves started to yellow...lol So they were marked down sharply, and when I asked if they expected to be chucking them soon, they said probably and gave me two...lol.. they are starting new leaves, so hopefully are healthy- though there was a lot of water in the plastic pot covers (stinky!!!!) now I just have to keep them healthy indoors for the looooong time till I can put them outside....
Amy Olmsted
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:09pmCohan...Keep a close eye out for aphids!! The ones sold in bloom at supermarkets are so stressed they are aphid magnets!! :o
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:12pmI'll second that. But aphids are easy to kill...
Mark McDonough
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 03/14/2012 - 7:45pmHelleborus niger is suddenly pushing forward withe buds expanding. The form I grow is pink tinged when starting (now), aging to a strong pink color later on.
The plant always sets lots of seed, but no self-sown seedlings ever show up unless I give assistance, scratching in the seed when ripe. When seed is sown "in situ", it germinates like weeds. In the first photo, are clusters of 2-year seedlings, and the right-hand photo shows the first flowering from a 3-year old seedling. In just several years scratching seed "in situ" I now have many hundreds of H. niger seedlings, probably too many, but an affordable and very doable way of increasing stock of one's plants.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 03/14/2012 - 9:22pmI'll watch for that, thanks.. almost all of the old leaves are gone, just flower stems left.. I do agree with Rick though- as someone who has had to battle with mealybugs indoors for years, aphids are like a holiday...lol
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:07amAnd I hope you have cut the flower/seed pod off. Otherwise you'll just be draining energy from the plant to the seeds that probably won't be "healthy" anyway.
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 8:48amThose rounded flowers are what the famous hellebore breeders like Helen Ballard and Elizabeth Strangman aimed for. They also crossed plants generally in the garden, rather than greenhouses, so as a result developed good garden strains - but it must have been freezing and hard work at times so early in the year! Elizabeth Strangman repeated pollination several times to ensure good results, and chose the warmest days. The plants were dotted about the nursery marked with different coloured wools. Somehow nice to see this with all the beds of plants for sale in between - harks back to the small individual specialist nurseries of old, which would be nice to see more of again. Must go out and get some pictures, but I haven't many as striking as Michael's.
cohan (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 11:43amI'll take a closer look, I don't think there is any seed forming, though I left the flower stems-- since the flowers have turned green, I assumed they are photosynthesizing!
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 1:55pmMark it is a nice form you grow! If you ever get too many seed . . . . . .
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