Although the hellebore season started weeks, if not months, ago they are still doing well in the garden.
Here are some Helleborus orientalis seedlings:
Although the hellebore season started weeks, if not months, ago they are still doing well in the garden.
Here are some Helleborus orientalis seedlings:
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Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 12:05pmAnd here is Helleborus argutifolius. The leaves stay green all winter and in the spring you get lime green flowers.
Todd Boland
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 5:12pmI like that light pink one!
They are peaking locally. Here is a selection from our BG. The dark and pale yellow are Helleborus orientalis types, the first white is Helleborus niger, the second one is Helleborus nigercors and the last is Helleborus odorus.
Todd Boland
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 05/03/2010 - 5:13pmI only have a purple Helleborus orientalis and a Helleborus foetidus (the later is just about open). I photographed mine this evening.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 05/05/2010 - 1:30pmThe orientalis types self sow all over here. The niger selection is very different from mine, seems to be a good plant.
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 05/21/2010 - 3:22pmHere, finally, is Helleborus cyclophyllus - my plants, in this dry, cool yard, never achieve the lushness of those grown in warmer climates.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 05/23/2010 - 12:12pmCyclophyllus is a species that I haven't tried yet. I like this genus, they usually make fine plants here. If I get the chance I will try this too.
Toole (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 08/08/2010 - 2:53amA few near bloom here today .
A double i raised from NZ seed a few years ago --finally released from it's pot last year and much happier.
:D
The other two pics are of seed sent from a friend in Aussie back in Dec 07--both first flowering .
The double red looks like it has come true.
Although i also sowed picote yellow i'm sure of the other one.
Cheers Dave.
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 4:33pmA few of my Hellebore plants!
Mark McDonough
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 4:45pmReed, are these flowering for you now or photos of plants from earlier in the year? I particularly like the double green one.
One thing I miss about my brief 4 years living in the Seattle Washington area, are how marvelously certain plants like Helleborus, Bergenia, and Rhododendron grew, and by comparison, how tatty-&-ratty some Hellebores can look in spring after beaten up by a hard winter.
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 4:56pmMcDonough,
No! these are from last winter I will take more this year in Dec. and Jan.. I have some amazing green ones and hopefully even some better ones this year. Like they say the grass is always greener on the other side I would love to be able to grow some of the plants you grow in situ. I can't stand most Rhododendron (I guess because I see them all the time) I enjoy the flowers in other peoples yards ;D. Seattle is nice to visit but it rains more there even more than here and after living in Vegas for 6 years this is hard to get used to again.
Mark McDonough
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 6:42pmFeel free to call me Mark (it's in my signature block :) ) One thing about the NARGS Forum is that the forum login names default to one's last name, so it is recommended to put your full name in your personal signature block, otherwise you might be addressed by last name only, if first name is unknown.
I believe all gardeners should have the experience of gardening in more than one place, it lends dimension to understanding climatic differences and the effect on plants. Gardening in rainy Seattle was an experience to be sure, and while it had its highlights, and was a thorough learning experience, as a born New Englander it was a hard adjustment, and the one thing I missed the most was New England autumns, nothing like it, so I returned to my roots. It must be quite an adjustment for you going from an arid environment like Vegas to the banana belt of the Pacific Northwest! One great asset of the area, is that the rain and dampness can be escaped with a short 2 hour drive or so, to be within magnificent dryland and sagebrush areas, with a fabulously diverse flora.
Back to Hellebores, my garden is too wind-exposed in winter and sun-baked and dry in summer for most hellebores to prosper, they persist as mere pathetic shadows of themselves compared to more favorable climates, so I don't bother. Although, I do like H. niger very much, and this one seems more amenable to our climate and makes a grand show each spring.
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 8:00pmThank you for the tip Mark. My name is James I will figure out all these buttons on here in time I guess. :)
Mark McDonough
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 8:21pmWell, a belated Welcome To The NARGS Forum James! If you have any questions about NARGS Forum and posting, feel free to ask. By the way, I just noticed that your signature block states you are at 500' elevation. I too am at 500' elevation, and I do think that gardening atop a hill has its own set of climatic concerns and issues. On the good side here, we're in apple orchard country in this part of Massachusetts, the trees planted on hills to avoid the early frosts, so we do indeed miss the earliest frosts.
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 9:34pmActually, you can change how your user name is listed on the forum, also. That's what I did: I am "RickR" rather than "Rodich."
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And a very nice collection that you show here, James!
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 9:43pmThank you both! :) (I changed mine)
Woodard (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:22pmJames, those are all nice, and the first one is quite special. By chance are any from NWGN? I have a couple from there that are similar.
Here in Tennessee the season is getting underway a bit early. We've had virtually no cold weather so buds on some plants are far too advanced for this time. Some of the reproductive parts will inevitably be destroyed by cold later on.
One of my primary goals is to develop relatively compact plants with exceptional foliage, so I grow a range of species and hybrids from species. Among the best at this time of year are seedlings from H. bocconei, which unlike some other acaulescent species that also carry divided foliage, do not enter autumn-winter dormancy. The result is nice foliage year round for those in places with not-too-extreme winters.
Some images of autumn foliage.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 11/30/2010 - 12:34pmJoseph, the autumn foliage of your hellebores (bocconei seedlings?) are very handsome! I don't think I have anything similar. What do you call too-extreme-winters? (This November has been extreme here - the coldest in 140 years!)
James and/or Dave: How are your pretty hellebores doing now? Here the soil has frozen solid - no snow cover but cold as in a freezer. (The rest of Europe gets the snow.)
Woodard (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 11/30/2010 - 1:43pmTrond, I think it would be similar to H. orientalis and most others that are commonly grown: the tissues of leaves can be damaged in cold places that don't have winter snow cover (maybe USDA 5 and colder??). But this is also true of slightly warmer zones (6-7) during the coldest winters. Last year locally it reached 3 F (-16 C) with no problem to the long-term health of the plants. They're completely hardy.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 11/30/2010 - 2:28pmOK, Joseph. In my garden the extreme cold hasn't been sub -10C/14F yet although other places it has been much colder. All Hellebores I have usually survive the winters untroubled. So they did last winter that was very cold too.
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 11/30/2010 - 5:50pmWelcome to the NARGS forum, Joseph! It's great to have a hellebore expert here. Love your website (hellebores.org), and that's a wonderful H. bocconei.
Sometimes an herbaceous hellebore is perfect for me with the unpredictable and cold winters here in Minnesota. The foliage (while it is here) is always fresh...
Helleborus × purpurascens
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 9:10amHi Joseph,
Sorry it took me so long to reply been busy with school, But to answer your question yes mine are from NWGN I worked for E&M for 7 years before I moved to Vegas and now I haved moved back again so I of course would only buy mine from them they in my opinion are the best and I also propogate my own (since they taught me most of what I know). :)
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:52pmHelleborus beginning to bloom here in my yard and a few blooms starting on my Primula 'Gold Lace' and my Hamamelis x intermedia 'Jelena' just starting to open up.
Mark McDonough
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 7:44amWe're in the deep freeze here, and after 14" of snow two weeks ago, it is mostly gone (not melted, but evaporated/dehydrated). This past fall, my plant labeled Hamamelis x intermedia 'Jelena' flowered heavily, out of season, and with yellow not reddish-orange flowers, so its identity is in doubt, or perhaps it was an anomalous flowering for both the season and flower color. I remember when I lived in the Seattle Washington area, having something in bloom year-round... not the case here with our much harder winters.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:36amLike here the last 15 years except this and the other year! My earliest hellebores are just 5cm tall and no sign of color on the witch hazel either.
Todd Boland
Re: Hellebores
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:39pmWith our exceptionally mild winter so far, I was out looking at my hellebores....they are about 5 cm high too. I'm not happy as we can expect snow and cold temps any day...not sure what will happen to them then. Gee, even my snowdrops are in bud already and they normally don't bloom until April around here!
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:56amThis happens, Todd:
Barbara L. Weintraub
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 01/27/2011 - 12:13pmI just ordered two of M&E's hellebores, 2 of 'Golden Sunrise' with the most yellow foliage, and 1 of "Onyx Jewel." They wont arrive until spring, so no photos until the following winter. These will be my first hellebores, as I haven't had a location for them until now.
Reed (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Thu, 01/27/2011 - 7:57pmYou will not be disappointed and then you will be hooked. :). mine are all nearly in full bloom here along with my Galanthus and Erianthus and my Erythronium and Trillium are peeking out of the ground. I will post some pics when I have a bit more time during the day to take some.
Todd Boland
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 02/13/2011 - 4:39pmOuch Trond! That is one sad clump of hellebores!
Mine are under 5 feet of snow...no frost in the ground before the snow fell so they should be in suspended animation until May.
Looking forward to seeing blooming hellebores at the WWSW in two weeks in Victoria!
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 11:39amHelleborus Thibetanus.
Some Ashwood hybs.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 11:41amA few more
4490 Helleborus niger
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 11:43amAnd more
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 11:44amLast few.
Amy Olmsted
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 2:00pmOh my!!! :o :o :o Oh my!!! Such beauty warms my heart & soul on this grey & cold winters day!
Thank-you!
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 2:11pm;D
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 6:43pmWow, Michael, you have a hellebore heaven! :D Are your flowers blooming earlier than normal this year?
Mine are just starting...
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 9:48pmWhat a spectacular collection, Michael!!
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:16pmVery good, Michael! I have 5 potfuls of Hellebores waiting for pricking out. Hope some turn out to be as beautiful as yours!
Have to add that yours isn't bad either, Saori. Very nice colour combination!
Tim Ingram (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Wed, 02/01/2012 - 12:36pmRoll on our hellebores! Not many are flowering like this yet. In Elizabeth Strangman's book on Hellebores there is a variety called 'Old Ugly' which is very like your photo. 4494. If that is 'Ugly' then I am all for it!
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 02/10/2012 - 11:09amA few more Hellebores
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 02/10/2012 - 2:46pmMichael, a few more you say - you must have a field of hellebores?! All of them are really nice too!
I have 5 pots of seedlings waiting for better space - I am looking forward to the flowers in a couple of years! ;)
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 02/10/2012 - 3:42pmBoy I'll say! :o :o The "flowers" last for months in our short springs here. Just think how much longer there in Ireland!
Temps will be dipping below 0 F tonight. It will be a long time for my show to begin; this is what mine look like:
Amy Olmsted
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 02/10/2012 - 5:35pmRick...yours look just like mine...only there's not a speck of snow to be seen. :-[ We are meant to get a few inches tonight & tomorrow, but we'll see. I'll believe it when I see it!
Mark McDonough
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 02/10/2012 - 5:47pmMichael, your hellebores are glorious, particularly love the yellow ones.
Amy & Rick, besides H. niger which does well here, the fancy hybrids just don't do that well in my garden, the foliage gets so battered that they look scrappy even when in bloom, necessitating cutting all foliage off. My couple of typical purple-flowered hybrids look like yours, flat, lifeless, and frozen.
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Fri, 02/10/2012 - 8:03pmMichael, I love your pink anemone (semi-double) flower!
I usually cut off old leaves (from hybrids) in December-January... We have a lot of winter rain, so doing this helps prevent fungus and it looks cleaner. I clean my pruner after each plant to prevent potentially spreading diseases or viruses to other plants.
Mine are just starting to bloom, but most are still in bud...
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 02/11/2012 - 5:46amI cut off all the old leaves about the end of November and dispose of every scrap of it to avoid spreading any disease.
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 02/11/2012 - 7:20amNice, dark colour of some of those, Saori!
This is my darkest one (I have no doubles) - not this spring ;) :
I never defoliate any of mine except when the leaves are dead. No problem with fungus so far :-X
Amy Olmsted
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 02/11/2012 - 1:49pmSame here....I have heard that if the leaves are still green they can still photosynthesise, so I leave them on till the last minute in spring.
Matt Mattus talks about that here in his fantastic blog.... http://www.growingwithplants.com/2011/04/spring-hellebores.html
Saori (not verified)
Re: Hellebores
Sat, 02/11/2012 - 7:28pmNice dark one, Trond! Is it still cold there? I found some of my dark doubles flowering today; if you are interested, I would be happy to send some seeds to you. ;)
Trond Hoy
Re: Hellebores
Sun, 02/12/2012 - 12:04amYes please, I am very interested in seeds of dark (actually any) double hellebore ;D
It is not very cold but it is not very warm either! It rained yesterday and the snow and ice started melting. Today seems to be rather mild (+5C) compared to the previous weeks. Can't see my plants yet as they are still covered by snow.
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