A teeny tiny treasure for the dry rock garden.

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The teeny tiny treasure is Escobaria sneedii ssp. sneedii. The tiny white marbles stacked one on top of another look like they should tumble and roll away. They stay put however with only an occasional escapee.
These are found in New Mexico through to western Texas and grow in very well drained sights that receave some summer rain. Winters are dry with lows of 10 F. My two plants withstand temps down to 0 F for the past five years showing no sign of damage.
Rare in it's native habitat. These tiny cactus can often form large mounding clumps, with a lopsided pyramid look reaching a foot or more across.
There are two subspecies and one other species in the Escobaria sneedii complex. E. sneedii ssp sneedi, E. sneedii ssp leeii and E. guadalupensis (syn. E. orcuttii ). They are all closely related and occupy the same territories so intermediate or hybrid plants occur. The status of E. sneedii ssp leeii as a sub species is also tenuous since it is restricted only one, small canyon surrounded by populations classified as E. sneedii ssp. sneedii.

First two shots are of E. sneedii ssp leeii
Third and fourth of E sneedii ssp sneedii
Fifth of E. guadalupensis (syn. E. orcuttii )

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Richard T. Rodich

Wed, 05/19/2010 - 4:03pm

I grew what I bought as Escobaria leei from High Country Gardens.  It survived through three winters in a trough here in zone 4.  But I think was damaged the third winter, as I'm not even sure if it actually grew at all the ensuing spring and summer.  By the end of the fourth winter, it had kicked the bucket.

But it certainly is a cute thing.  I assume it was Escobaria sneedii ssp. leeii

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Panayoti Kelaidis

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 3:57am

I couldn't find my picture of E. leei, but did find one of E. sneedii var. sneedii blooming in a trough in Pueblo belonging to Bill Adams, of Sunscapes Nursery.

I never cease to be amazed how hardy and wonderful E. leei is: we have huge mounds at Denver Botanic Gardens, and I have them tucked here and there in my troughs at home. They are even bedded out, as it were, at the public park at Kendrick Lake (where I get seed every year because there are no other Escobaria planted nearby so it should be "pure"). I am now growing most of the Escobaria of the Chihuahan desert that are hardy: there are a lot of them. I have a sneaking suspicion that some clever botanist will one day try and lump most of them together, because truth be said, they are an awful lot like one another when you grow them side by side and they all hybridize it seems. At least the whole E. sneedii, organensis, orcuttii, dasyacantha, tuberculosa, zilziana, etc. etc. groups!  The same, of course, could be said of the Auricula section in Primula, or half the penstemons!

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John P. Weiser

Thu, 05/20/2010 - 5:41am

PK
I have wondered if my plants are correctly identified. I notice in the sneedii picture you posted that the central spines protrude above the radial spines substantially. On my plants the central spines are hardly noticeable. When I touch the surface I only feel a slight roughness and no sharp prickles.
I will take a macro of the surface and post it. Your opinion as to whether this is a ssp. sneedii or ssp leei would be appreciated. 
The more I delve into this question the more I am convinced I have misidentified the subspecies.

Well for the present until they are lumped together by that clever botanist who upturns the apple cart. ::)

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Trond Hoy

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 3:39pm

I had some potfuls of Escobara. I don't know which species but they looked similar to your first picture of E sneedii spp sneedii, John. However they all died last winter -spring. I don't know why, they were indoors but experienced some degrees below the freezing point. However, they should tolerate that? (They were kept dry of course) Anyway - I miss them :'(

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Robert Nold

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 6:13pm

Escobaria sneedii subsp. leei has spines bent backward towards the stem. Otherwise they're pretty much the same.
Another difference is that sneedii subsp. sneedii is an endangered species, whereas leei is "just" threatened, and can be legally sold.

Bob

(forgive the lateness of my reply)

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DesertZone (not verified)

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 9:35pm

I had one for a few years until this spring it died, but could have died do to lack of water the summer before.  It may have been dead longer than I thought.  I have lost some cactus do to lack of summer irrigation.  We get all of water in the winter. :)   

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John P. Weiser

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 7:57am

Aaron
They do indeed like a little water now and again in the summer. You and I rarely if ever get monsoon rains like they are used to.

I've also had cacti die and not realize it till much later. The ones with tight dense spines are usually crispy, before I notice there is a problem. Too late by then!! :rolleyes:

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DesertZone (not verified)

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 5:09pm
Weiser wrote:

I've also had cacti die and not realize it till much later. The ones with tight dense spines are usually crispy, before I notice there is a problem. Too late by then!! :rolleyes:

That is so true. :)

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Manfroni (not verified)

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:56am

I have an Escobaria leei in my cactus garden... it's cool because every time some friend comes over I ask them if they can find the cactus among all the white gravel! That's also why I had to leave the tag next to it, otherwise I would lose track of it too!!! lol I still did not see it bloom... does it bloom in the late Spring? If so, I still have to wait then!


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Manfroni (not verified)

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 9:21am

Wow, it looks amazing! I find it strange that they die that fast! I think it rained quite a lot this winter and mine are still doing fine...

I guess the way I plant my cactus ends up to be working... when ever I transplant a cactus from the pot, I make a hole slightly larger than the pot, and I place the cacti in the hole from the pot, and I fill all the voids only with gravel, no soil at all... I figured the soil will eventually build up between the gravel anyway....

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John P. Weiser

Sat, 03/03/2012 - 3:48pm

Your Escobaria leei blends into the light colored gravel very well indeed. It should bloom when the temperatures start to hit the nineties. At least that's when mine start to bloom. They will have tiny pink blossoms.

I have tried Escobaria minima several times it does not survive outdoors for me. I get down into the single digits at least once or twice a winter. They are adorable little creatures.

The Escobaria vivipara group are a hardy bunch well worth growing.

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DesertZone (not verified)

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 7:38pm
Manfroni wrote:

Wow, it looks amazing! I find it strange that they die that fast! I think it rained quite a lot this winter and mine are still doing fine...

I think it died in the wet winter here because it was under a foot of snow for over a month and was below 0F a few times.
I think your winters are much warmer than mine.  I was surprised that it lived through a few winters (covered) here...like maybe two winters. :)

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Martin Tversted (not verified)

Mon, 03/05/2012 - 10:28pm

Escobaria sneedii and the subspecies leeri both survive outside here in central Denmark. temps to minus 24C and both cold and rain. Obviously they are places in a sheltered place with lots of drainage and all the sun we have when we have it. But they are among the more hardy coldhardy cacti. Trond, I have extras...

Martin

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Trond Hoy

Tue, 03/06/2012 - 8:10am
Martin wrote:

Escobaria sneedii and the subspecies leeri both survive outside here in central Denmark. temps to minus 24C and both cold and rain. Obviously they are places in a sheltered place with lots of drainage and all the sun we have when we have it. But they are among the more hardy coldhardy cacti. Trond, I have extras...

Martin

;D ;D ;D

BTW the succulents I got from you seem to have survived so far!