Nomocharis seed wanted

I have my first nomocharis seedlings this year, from seed from a NARGS/SRGC forumist.  I've tried 3-4 times with seed ex seeds and they never even germinated.  Hope you find some, Jan.

Jan wrote:

I would love to get my hands on some nomocharis seed to try Gene Mirro's start them in the fall under lights method.  I already have a light set up I just need the seed.  Any species or color is fine-I'm not picky. 

I have a seed import permit so I can receive seed from overseas.  I don't have much in the way of seed to trade right now except Erythronium revolutum but I can send out fresh seed of Trillium kurabayashii, Trillium ovatum or Pseudotrillium rivale next year. I will of course reimburse for postage and padded mailer. 

Thank you,
Jan Jeddeloh

I am sorry Jan, I would gladly send some if I had, but the slugs always attack and devour the plants so I am glad whenever I see a single flower :-\

Jan wrote:

I would love to get my hands on some nomocharis seed to try Gene Mirro's start them in the fall under lights method.  I already have a light set up I just need the seed.  Any species or color is fine-I'm not picky. 

I have a seed import permit so I can receive seed from overseas. 

Thank you,
Jan Jeddeloh

Hello Jan

Not sure whether you have had any replies ---here is one of my clumps currently in bloom .Let me know if you ,(and others),want me to save seed and i'll note my diary.

Cheers Dave.

I have to say that I've tried to germinate Nomocharis seed from a few different seed exchanges before, and Dave's seeds are the only ones I've had luck with.  Maybe it's because they are so fresh, coming from down under.
Thanks, Dave!

Hello Rick
Pleased to hear of your sucess. :)

Here's a few others currently in bloom -- i grow a number of the species close together so can't guarantee how true the seed will be .In any case i think they are all beautiful  :-*

Cheers Dave.

Dave, I am jealous! I wouldn't mind growing any Nomocharis be it a species or hybrid :o

The seed I got from Gene Mirro is germinating!  It's under lights downstairs. Now if I can just make sure not to let it dry out.

Jan

Dave - those really are exquisite plants! Not for us in the south of Britain. There is a great article about these in an old AGS Bulletin (Vol. 19, p. 134, 1951), by David Wilkie who was at the RBG Edinburgh. He recommends sowing seed in the winter in a warm house and growing them on like this for two or three years before planting out. He mentions one species basilissa of pure luminous salmon scarlet. Parts of New Zealand must be an ideal climate for them.

Never heard of a red Nomocharis, nor the species name basilissa, so with the magic of Google you can feast your eyes on exquisite Nomocharis photos from China, including N. baslissa. Enjoy (mouse over any photo for an enlarged version):

Note, for people on slower internet connection, the photos in this gallery page are large, but worth the wait.
http://www.planta.cn/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26610&sid=88b06f4a3f435e52332...

I see those pictures were contributed by Arisaema who if the same person has posted on the SRGC site and who has moved to live in China. There are some other pictures on his facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/trilliumno

Wow, that N. basilissa is something special,  8) ??? 8)

Almost 'Fritillaria subgenus Liliorhiza ' like in its leaf arrangement, ( from these pictures obviously! ). This is one that had slipped under my radar :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ... more fool me!

Can anyone add any additional information please?? :)

Tony wrote:

I see those pictures were contributed by Arisaema who if the same person has posted on the SRGC site and who has moved to live in China. There are some other pictures on his facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/trilliumno

Didn't know he has moved to China. He lives not very far from here but I have never met him in person. I know he often travels to China though ;)

Oh man. That red nomocharis is truly worth lusting over. Tropical orchid geeks think nothing of putting special heaters and humidifiers in their greenhouses so maybe we could put air conditioners in ours?  Of course there is the little problem of energy costs. But hey money is no object in pursuit of the rare plant, right?  Imagine the bragging rights that red nomocharis would give you.

Actually who am I kidding, flowering any nomocharis around here gives you bragging rights.

Jan

Try this one for another selection of pictures. Either it is very variable or there is some odd identification

http://www.nature-museum.net/album/ShowSpAlbum.aspx?spid=50025

Tony wrote:

Try this one for another selection of pictures. Either it is very variable or there is some odd identification

http://www.nature-museum.net/album/ShowSpAlbum.aspx?spid=50025

Thanks for that Tony. Seems like the name has been applied to very different plants here,  ???. The leaf arrangements for one seem to be quite different. ??? Seems like one to be wary of, if advertised for sale  :o

Jan,
I would have thought you would have a fairly good chance with Nomocharis in your area. What seems to be going wrong?

Tony wrote:

I see those pictures were contributed by Arisaema who if the same person has posted on the SRGC site and who has moved to live in China. There are some other pictures on his facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/trilliumno

Tony, I think that is another "arisaema" - another SRGC Forumist, who usually uses that as his ID, but changes to "cardamine" on the SRGC is heavily involved in such websites, and I think those photos may be his.
He said this on the SRGC site : I always use arisaema as my userID on websites, the same with a hero member here ( on srgc). Indeed, a hyperlink in his post gave me the clue leading me to this forum, and then I was coming. This is interesting, but I have to choose another userID here ::)

I have a gallery on nature-museum website, more then 100,000 photos and nearly 4,000 species. Please aware about the username is arisaema ;D
http://www.nature-museum.net/Album/UserAlbums.aspx?Username=arisaema

The checklist of the species:
http://www.nature-museum.net/User/AlbumSpTree.aspx?Username=arisaema

Cheers, Maggi

RE: Nomocharis basilissa - this ( follow link)  is what we  flowered  from seed called that in 2003 --- not the right thing- weep, sob!

http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/210503/log.html

User name Arisaema...

You just never know.
  A few years ago when I tried to make a Yahoo email account with "Leftwood", it was already taken, too!

User account names on mail domains are much harder to get, because they typically have millions upon millions of accounts, unlike a smaller forum like NARGS or SRGC, where the number of account names is merely in the thousands.

IMYoung wrote:

Tony wrote:

I see those pictures were contributed by Arisaema who if the same person has posted on the SRGC site and who has moved to live in China. There are some other pictures on his facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/trilliumno

Tony, I think that is another "arisaema" - another SRGC Forumist, who usually uses that as his ID, but changes to "cardamine" on the SRGC is heavily involved in such websites, and I think those photos may be his.
He said this on the SRGC site : I always use arisaema as my userID on websites, the same with a hero member here ( on srgc). Indeed, a hyperlink in his post gave me the clue leading me to this forum, and then I was coming. This is interesting, but I have to choose another userID here ::)

I have a gallery on nature-museum website, more then 100,000 photos and nearly 4,000 species. Please aware about the username is arisaema ;D
http://www.nature-museum.net/Album/UserAlbums.aspx?Username=arisaema

The checklist of the species:
http://www.nature-museum.net/User/AlbumSpTree.aspx?Username=arisaema

Cheers, Maggi

Maggi

good job I hedged my bets by saying 'if'

It is a super website he has. I think getting a good red one is going to be very difficult and could cause much heartache after years of growing from seed. I wonder if there has only ever been one true red and that was an abberation.

Tony - I've just written something about this for the AGS website next year. The red Nomocharis was seen by Farrer in Upper Burma, and introduced at least once because Wilkie refers to it growing in one garden, but doesn't specify where. So it does seem as if there is at least a population of this colour, even if there is variation. Cox, in his book 'Plant Hunting in China' also mentions it with reference to Farrer (who he knew and had collected with in similar regions) but climatically this was a difficult area to travel and collect plants. Wilkie describes it as allied to N. meleagrina.