It will take some years for they are large enough for the Beervelde plant-show but for the future I hope to bring some in spring For the autumn My stand is full with other bulbs
here some other S. Africans which start flowering Massonia pustulata Massonia echinata
In this time of the year there isn't that much flowering maybe an idea to post pictures from the seeds I bought The pictures are from the companies where I bought the seeds If you want to know where I bought seeds , just PM me and I mail you the addresses or if it is allowed I place the sites here
Roland
First gladiolus grandiflorus babiana tubulosa Gladiolus flanaganii Babiana angustifolia Geissorhiza radians white form Gladiolus robertsoniae
Pictures taken away to complicated to show
Roland
Moderator note: the simple steps of indicating "fair use" when posting copyrighted photos by others, were supplied numerous times (state "fair use", include a link to the source site). Roland feels this is too complicated and subsequently deleted the photos. Since many single messages showed someone else's copyrighted photos one at a time without commentary, once the forumist deleted the photos, the empty posts no longer made sense, so all empty messages were deleted accordingly to eliminate confusion for forumists. sigh :(
I don't know the source of the unattributed photos in this topic, so can't provide URLs to the source images :(
I have many Gladiolus flanaganii seedlings again, after I forgot to bring in the first batch of dormant bulbs for the winter. (They froze, of course.) They are very vigorous and easy, and I think they are a summer growing species. The G. grandiflorus and G. robertsoniae are very full flowered for a gladiolus species, and beautiful, too. Are they summer or winter growing?
Gladiolus flanaganii and G. permeabilis, second year seedlings in 3.5x5 inch(9x13cm) pots.
My first foray with Geissorhiza was very successful, sort of: The seed of G. bracteata and G. heterostylus germinated very easily at 70F, and seedlings seem pretty carefree. But a month or so down the road I was very neglectful and killed them all. :( Roland, the Geissorhiza radians is especially captivating!
Pity for the Geissorhiza Didn't the small bulbs survive ??
This was a few years ago, and I had moved pots to a temporary safe place (a closet) while I was entertaining the extended family for a holiday get together. Then completely forgot about them. A month plus later, I did look to find any surviving tiny bulbs, but didn't see any. Not expecting every single seed to germinate, I planted way to thickly anyway, and the pots were like instant turf. I am sure this didn't help matters...
I have only seen a photo of Gladiolus orchidiflorus once before, and I wondered if a glad flower could really look that cool. Now that I see your picture, Roland, I know the first photo was not a trick!
All really neat plants. That Massonia looks so tiny. How small is it?
The seeds aren't germinated but in a few years I hope to post my own pictures as far as I know it just recently got the name Massonia wittebergensis I think there are a lot of unknown species in Africa
I loved always the African bulbs but was never able to grow them Now I have a few poly-tunnels which I can keep almost free of frost this gives me lots of possibilities
I think it's a good investment Lots of fun seeing seedlings growing
The Massonia wittebergensis looks very similar to Massonia echinata which is found in Lesotho above 2700 m. Could the one be a synonym of the other? I've never seen it in flower but have some seedlings and a few mature bulbs which will hopefully flower this summer. If you're interested I can check my seed fridge for excess seed.
It is possible that they are the same as far as I know this Massonia wittebergensis got last year a name before it was marked as unknown Massonia specie's seen on the picture in Eastern Cape tour February 2009
there are many collections wrong named simple because there isn't so much knowledge (same for me)
Hi Roland, I'll mail you a list of bulb seed tomorrow. I don't have a great variety of rare bulbs but I do have some choice ones from the Lesotho Highlands, a number of which would also occur in the Witteberg Mountains of the Eastern Cape.
There is a photo of M. echinata in Elsa Pooleys book "Mountain Flowers. A Field Guide to the Flora of the Drakensberg and Lesotho." (Published in 2003) I'll post a photo from the book tomorrow.
Well, I've finally managed to take a passable photo of what I always thought was Massonia echinata as pictured in Elsa Pooleys book.
But having looked at your photo of M. echinata, Roland, and checking in Goldblatt, Manning and Snijmans book (The colour encyclopedia of Cape Bulbs) I have to agree that the plant I know from the Lesotho Drakensberg is not echinata but M. wittebergensis.
The text isn't readable Maybe you can try to resize the text with Tiny Pick (German and English) see: http://www.efpage.de/eTinypic.html as far as I know one of the best free resizing program compared for the details
The text isn't readable Maybe you can try to resize the text with Tiny Pick (German and English) see: http://www.efpage.de/eTinypic.html as far as I know one of the best free resizing program compared for the details
Roland
Roland, the text is perfectly legible (readable), when you click on the thumbnail image to enlarge it.
I found that out later Mark I tried it but the site didn't respond for the second picture it did (not fast)with the first picture just about 10 minutes later it suddenly popped up No idea why it reacted so late
One day I want to go there (soon) must be a fantastic country to explore Probably I will rent a car and just drive around enjoying the nature must be the same feeling as I had in the Rockies, British Columbia suddenly you feel yourself very small
One day I want to go there (soon) must be a fantastic country to explore Probably I will rent a car and just drive around enjoying the nature must be the same feeling as I had in the Rockies, British Columbia suddenly you feel yourself very small
Roland
Then you'll need a 4W drive! And lots of water . . . . .
It is a very pleasant trip from Nairobi, Kenya to Arusha, Tanzania. And you have several mountains to explore around there, not necessarily to climb the summit but to look at the flora and fauna on the mountain shoulders. The great plains and game reseves are near too.
All of you seem to have some south African bulbs in flower now so I have to show mine - a common Clivia miniata though but it is from seed I received more than 30 years ago from a friend. It sits outside from April till November and in the basement till the buds appear.
All of you seem to have some south African bulbs in flower now so I have to show mine - a common Clivia miniata though but it is from seed I received more than 30 years ago from a friend. It sits outside from April till November and in the basement till the buds appear.
Trond I'm so glad you posted a picture of your Clivia! I've got one coming into bloom also that I started from seed 6-7 years ago and this will be its first blooming! ;D I'll post a pic as soon as it is blooming well. I plant-sit for neighbors who winter in Florida and they've got 3 huge pots of Clivia that will be blooming profusely soon also. Such great and tough plants! I finally figured out that the blooming is connected to day length rather than watering or temperature. So the rest of my Clivia will all go to the neighbors next season!
I have one Freesia laxa alba (or whatever it is called now(I like this phrase Michael)) in flower its a late seedling from last year made the flower-bud in December but because of the cold didn't develop
I am in Holland in the moment but will try (if I don't forget) to make a picture Friday when I am back home
All of you seem to have some south African bulbs in flower now so I have to show mine - a common Clivia miniata though but it is from seed I received more than 30 years ago from a friend. It sits outside from April till November and in the basement till the buds appear.
Trond I'm so glad you posted a picture of your Clivia! I've got one coming into bloom also that I started from seed 6-7 years ago and this will be its first blooming! ;D I'll post a pic as soon as it is blooming well. I plant-sit for neighbors who winter in Florida and they've got 3 huge pots of Clivia that will be blooming profusely soon also. Such great and tough plants! I finally figured out that the blooming is connected to day length rather than watering or temperature. So the rest of my Clivia will all go to the neighbors next season!
You are welcome, Amy (got a copy of a nice magazine recently ;) ) I'm looking forward to seeing yours! I've been fascinated by Clivias ever since my grandma lived. She had an enormous 100 year old plant in a huge pot!
Comments
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Sun, 12/11/2011 - 3:55amI like Nerine. I have one in a pot now and had some plants outside for several years. I suppose you grow yours outside?
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sun, 12/11/2011 - 4:33amMost from my Nerine collection isn't hardy
just the N.bowdenii and N.bowdenii alba survive here the winter outside
I test next year N.undulata
Roland
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sun, 12/11/2011 - 4:35amHere a picture from my South African seed-pots
all seeds came in the last two weeks
Roland
Lina Hesseling (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sun, 12/11/2011 - 5:29amDat ziet er geweldig uit, Roland! :D
This looks great, Roland!
In future a lot of plants to sell in Beervelde, Belgium.
Groeten, Lina.
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sun, 12/11/2011 - 7:40amHello Lina
Also welcome here
two newbies together ;D
It will take some years for they are large enough for the Beervelde plant-show
but for the future I hope to bring some in spring
For the autumn My stand is full with other bulbs
here some other S. Africans which start flowering
Massonia pustulata
Massonia echinata
Roland
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 12/14/2011 - 12:06amI just got in seeds from Whiteheadia bifolia
also called Massonia bifolia
not sure what is the newest name
intriguing plant , it grows in arid winter-rainfall areas of South Africa
Pictures taken away
to complicated to show
Roland
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Thu, 12/15/2011 - 11:56pmIn this time of the year there isn't that much flowering
maybe an idea to post pictures from the seeds I bought
The pictures are from the companies where I bought the seeds
If you want to know where I bought seeds ,
just PM me and I mail you the addresses
or if it is allowed I place the sites here
Roland
First gladiolus grandiflorus
babiana tubulosa
Gladiolus flanaganii
Babiana angustifolia
Geissorhiza radians white form
Gladiolus robertsoniae
Pictures taken away
to complicated to show
Roland
Moderator note: the simple steps of indicating "fair use" when posting copyrighted photos by others, were supplied numerous times (state "fair use", include a link to the source site). Roland feels this is too complicated and subsequently deleted the photos. Since many single messages showed someone else's copyrighted photos one at a time without commentary, once the forumist deleted the photos, the empty posts no longer made sense, so all empty messages were deleted accordingly to eliminate confusion for forumists. sigh :(
I don't know the source of the unattributed photos in this topic, so can't provide URLs to the source images :(
Richard T. Rodich
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 12/16/2011 - 6:59amI have many Gladiolus flanaganii seedlings again, after I forgot to bring in the first batch of dormant bulbs for the winter. (They froze, of course.) They are very vigorous and easy, and I think they are a summer growing species. The G. grandiflorus and G. robertsoniae are very full flowered for a gladiolus species, and beautiful, too. Are they summer or winter growing?
Gladiolus flanaganii and G. permeabilis, second year seedlings in 3.5x5 inch(9x13cm) pots.
My first foray with Geissorhiza was very successful, sort of:
The seed of G. bracteata and G. heterostylus germinated very easily at 70F, and seedlings seem pretty carefree. But a month or so down the road I was very neglectful and killed them all. :(
Roland, the Geissorhiza radians is especially captivating!
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:26amPity for the Geissorhiza
Didn't the small bulbs survive ??
For the gladiolus I think they are winter growers
I have to look in the books
most of the Gladiolus I seeded last year
are above the ground already
The seeds from the G. grandiflorus and G. robertsoniae
where difficult to find
Roland
Richard T. Rodich
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:02amThis was a few years ago, and I had moved pots to a temporary safe place (a closet) while I was entertaining the extended family for a holiday get together. Then completely forgot about them. A month plus later, I did look to find any surviving tiny bulbs, but didn't see any. Not expecting every single seed to germinate, I planted way to thickly anyway, and the pots were like instant turf. I am sure this didn't help matters...
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:24amHere some of the 70 Nerines I found in England
Nerine Bagdad
Nerine Tweedledee
Nerine Rotunda
Nerine Koriba
Nerine Judith
Roland
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:43amI use as potting mixture
20 % garden soil
20 % Sphagnum peat
10 % white sand
20 % Lava stones 5/15
30 % pine bark 10/20
For bulb mixture I add 100 litre perlite in one m³ mixture
Roland
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 12/21/2011 - 8:13amDid you buy all the 70 different Nerines, bulborum?
It's a lot of nice plants you show us!
Here are two I observed last time I visited Africa: Gladiolus watsonioides and Scadoxus multiflorus.
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 12/21/2011 - 8:19amYes Hoy
over 70 different Nerines sarniensis
just to see how they grow
I have a few more pictures from the man where I bought them
I will post them later
The Gladiolus watsonioides seeds where sold out
next year a new change
Where did you take the picture from the Gladiolus watsonioides
Roland
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 12/21/2011 - 10:45pmThe picture of G. watsonioides is taken on Mount Kenya in Kenya and th Scadoxus picture is taken on Mount Meru in Tanzania.
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 12/21/2011 - 11:20pmUnbelievable that there can grow plants there
I am always astonished when I see places like this
Fantastic Picture
Roland
Richard T. Rodich
Re: South African Bulbs
Thu, 12/22/2011 - 10:16amI have only seen a photo of Gladiolus orchidiflorus once before, and I wondered if a glad flower could really look that cool. Now that I see your picture, Roland, I know the first photo was not a trick!
All really neat plants. That Massonia looks so tiny. How small is it?
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Thu, 12/22/2011 - 10:24amIts only a few cm high
The seeds aren't germinated
but in a few years I hope to post my own pictures
as far as I know it just recently got the name Massonia wittebergensis
I think there are a lot of unknown species in Africa
Roland
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 01/02/2012 - 12:37pmAnd as cream on the cake
today arrived 30 seeds from Gladiolus kamiesbergensis
Picture taken away
to complicated to show
Roland
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 7:08amUnderstandable but you seems to be hit hard, Roland ;)
Some lovely gladioli there!
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 7:15amI loved always the African bulbs
but was never able to grow them
Now I have a few poly-tunnels
which I can keep almost free of frost
this gives me lots of possibilities
I think it's a good investment
Lots of fun seeing seedlings growing
Roland
Jennifer Wainwr...
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 9:00amBeautiful bulbs, Roland!
The Massonia wittebergensis looks very similar to Massonia echinata which is found in Lesotho above 2700 m. Could the one be a synonym of the other? I've never seen it in flower but have some seedlings and a few mature bulbs which will hopefully flower this summer. If you're interested I can check my seed fridge for excess seed.
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 10:08amHello Jenny
It is possible that they are the same
as far as I know this Massonia wittebergensis
got last year a name
before it was marked as unknown Massonia specie's
seen on the picture in Eastern Cape tour February 2009
there are many collections wrong named
simple because there isn't so much knowledge (same for me)
I would love to swap some seeds
Roland
Jennifer Wainwr...
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 12:57pmHi Roland, I'll mail you a list of bulb seed tomorrow. I don't have a great variety of rare bulbs but I do have some choice ones from the Lesotho Highlands, a number of which would also occur in the Witteberg Mountains of the Eastern Cape.
There is a photo of M. echinata in Elsa Pooleys book "Mountain Flowers. A Field Guide to the Flora of the Drakensberg and Lesotho." (Published in 2003) I'll post a photo from the book tomorrow.
Jenny
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 1:13pmFantastic Jenny
Here a picture from the Massonia echinata I have
Roland
Jennifer Wainwr...
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 01/06/2012 - 2:35amWell, I've finally managed to take a passable photo of what I always thought was Massonia echinata as pictured in Elsa Pooleys book.
But having looked at your photo of M. echinata, Roland, and checking in Goldblatt, Manning and Snijmans book (The colour encyclopedia of Cape Bulbs) I have to agree that the plant I know from the Lesotho Drakensberg is not echinata but M. wittebergensis.
It's definitely very special!
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 01/06/2012 - 3:45amM. wittebergensis is stunning
The text isn't readable
Maybe you can try to resize the text with Tiny Pick (German and English)
see: http://www.efpage.de/eTinypic.html
as far as I know one of the best free resizing program
compared for the details
Roland
Mark McDonough
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 01/06/2012 - 5:23amRoland, the text is perfectly legible (readable), when you click on the thumbnail image to enlarge it.
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 01/06/2012 - 6:15amI found that out later Mark
I tried it but the site didn't respond for the second picture
it did (not fast)with the first picture
just about 10 minutes later it suddenly popped up
No idea why it reacted so late
Roland
cohan (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:25pmTrond- love the pic of the Gladiolus etc in situ!
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Sat, 02/04/2012 - 12:06amThanks, Cohan. I enjoyed all that trip ;)
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Sat, 02/04/2012 - 12:34amYeh
One day I want to go there (soon)
must be a fantastic country to explore
Probably I will rent a car and just drive around
enjoying the nature
must be the same feeling as I had in the Rockies, British Columbia
suddenly you feel yourself very small
Roland
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Sat, 02/04/2012 - 1:06amThen you'll need a 4W drive! And lots of water . . . . .
It is a very pleasant trip from Nairobi, Kenya to Arusha, Tanzania. And you have several mountains to explore around there, not necessarily to climb the summit but to look at the flora and fauna on the mountain shoulders. The great plains and game reseves are near too.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 02/14/2012 - 2:03pmHesperantha vaginata.
cohan (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 02/14/2012 - 3:26pmFantastic colours! I guess these would be in the greenhouse- do you have to heat the greenhouse at all?
Richard T. Rodich
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 02/14/2012 - 3:37pmDrop-dead eye-catching!
Is it naturally a summer or winter grower?
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 02/15/2012 - 9:34amYes it is in the greenhouse but little or no heat required this year so far. I only keep it a few degrees above freezing.
Yes it is a winter grower and flowers early spring.
cohan (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 02/15/2012 - 11:35amGood winter for the heating bills :)
deesen (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 3:42amMy first South African Romulea of the season to flower:-
Romulea tetragona
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:05pmVery impacting, Michael, I really like this one!
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:07pmThis is also a very nice colour, David!
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:16pmAll of you seem to have some south African bulbs in flower now so I have to show mine - a common Clivia miniata though but it is from seed I received more than 30 years ago from a friend. It sits outside from April till November and in the basement till the buds appear.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 12:24pmVery impressive, :o I like Clivia and grow a lot from seed, have 20 seedlings that should flower this year or next from seed that I got from Medira.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 1:19pmFreesia laxa azurea, difficult to get the colour correct on this one.
Amy Olmsted
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 1:55pmTrond I'm so glad you posted a picture of your Clivia! I've got one coming into bloom also that I started from seed 6-7 years ago and this will be its first blooming! ;D
I'll post a pic as soon as it is blooming well. I plant-sit for neighbors who winter in Florida and they've got 3 huge pots of Clivia that will be blooming profusely soon also. Such great and tough plants! I finally figured out that the blooming is connected to day length rather than watering or temperature. So the rest of my Clivia will all go to the neighbors next season!
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Mon, 02/27/2012 - 2:39pmMichael what a nice colour
the ones you send me
just start growing
but are far from flowering
Roland
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 02/28/2012 - 1:27amRoland, Azurea is a winter grower as is some of its hyb offspring shown here.
Michael J Campbell (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 02/28/2012 - 11:24amA couple more.
Geissorhiza aspera.
Sparaxis villosa (syn. Synnotia villosa) or whatever they call it this week. :rolleyes:
bulborum (not verified)
Re: South African Bulbs
Tue, 02/28/2012 - 3:28pmThat explains a lot
I have one Freesia laxa alba (or whatever it is called now(I like this phrase Michael)) in flower
its a late seedling from last year
made the flower-bud in December
but because of the cold didn't develop
I am in Holland in the moment
but will try (if I don't forget) to make a picture Friday when I am back home
Roland
Trond Hoy
Re: South African Bulbs
Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:21pmYou are welcome, Amy (got a copy of a nice magazine recently ;) )
I'm looking forward to seeing yours! I've been fascinated by Clivias ever since my grandma lived. She had an enormous 100 year old plant in a huge pot!
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