Crow Garlic, Allium vineale, is edible. There are reports of a number of species of Allium, including regular garlic or Allium sativum, of having some toxicity when eaten in large quantities. Allium vineale is found as an invasive in approximately 1/2 of North America, and is listed on many States noxiopus weeds lists. It is very invasive here, and considered very difficult to eradicate. It will infest lawns, where eradication is nearly impossible. Bad onion!
Of Course! Many lilies, like L. davidii, are quite robust. There is really no need to coddle them to get them to reproduce, and this species is very easy to clean if the bulbs are not too old.
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And yes, A vineale goes dormant in summer. That is, the leaves wilt but the stem with a few flowers and lots of bulbils stays for all summer more or less green. When I was a child we played with it pretending it was real onions for dinner but we were never allowed to eat them. My grandma said they were poisonous.
I wonder if that is true ???
I'd take seed of that Scilla, Trond, if you get any...
I have found out that she was wrong, indeed! She said it to teach us not to eat unknown plants in general and she probably had in mind another similar plant usually found farther south which actually is toxic.
Seed shouldn't be difficult to get. I'll keep you in mind (I hope!)
That's a very pretty Scilla, Trond, very lush :) I don't know Allium vineale, but that reminds me of my childhood- we were told almost all berries were poisonous- except the obvious wild raspberries and strawberries.. gooseberries not poisononous but we were told they were usually full of worms so leave them alone... (still not sure about that!).. same idea- too hard to be sure what a bunch of kids are eating in the fields and bush!
Funny you should mention that Cohan . Just sitting here having the morning cuppa and thinking "Yep , it's spring now , the weather is turning nasty " . Usually this weather deterioration coincides with lambing ( which it has done ) . Going down to Dave's on a pilgrimmage run in a couple of weeks with my parents to see his very cool garden
Funny you should mention that Cohan . Just sitting here having the morning cuppa and thinking "Yep , it's spring now , the weather is turning nasty " . Usually this weather deterioration coincides with lambing ( which it has done ) . Going down to Dave's on a pilgrimmage run in a couple of weeks with my parents to see his very cool garden
Could I join you :D Well, it's too long a travel :( Here the weather is very autumn-ish at the moment - rain and westerly winds.But the temp isn't bad though, I still wear jandals ;D I don't think Anemone pavonina would do a good figure in my garden - too wet for it's liking I presume - but maybe the Gagea would?
So if your are going down to Dave's, you are then farther north- does that generally mean warmer? or is that direction offset by other factors? We are mixing summery and near fall weather, but nights are getting chilly, and we are already seeing a hint of the fall windy weather.. I'm hoping to plant some spring bulbs if I find anything decent locally, but other than that, they will be many months away!
Mmm.. Really nice, Dave. Both are "must tries". Fran
Frances Howey London, Ontario, Canada Zone 5b
Thanks Fran.
Hoy wrote:
Jandals wrote:
Funny you should mention that Cohan . Just sitting here having the morning cuppa and thinking "Yep , it's spring now , the weather is turning nasty " . Usually this weather deterioration coincides with lambing ( which it has done ) . Going down to Dave's on a pilgrimmage run in a couple of weeks with my parents to see his very cool garden
Could I join you :D Well, it's too long a travel :( Here the weather is very autumn-ish at the moment - rain and westerly winds.But the temp isn't bad though, I still wear jandals ;D I don't think Anemone pavonina would do a good figure in my garden - too wet for it's liking I presume - but maybe the Gagea would?
You'd be most welcome to visit Trond ....I'll have the kettle boiling ;) The Gagea only survives in a pot for me whereas i have different coloured forms of Anemone pavonina in various places in the garden.
cohan wrote:
So if your are going down to Dave's, you are then farther north- does that generally mean warmer? or is that direction offset by other factors? We are mixing summery and near fall weather, but nights are getting chilly, and we are already seeing a hint of the fall windy weather.. I'm hoping to plant some spring bulbs if I find anything decent locally, but other than that, they will be many months away!
I'm about 90 mins travel souwest along the coast from Steve --he will be a bit drier and sunnier ,maybe just as windy :-\ .....
You'd be most welcome to visit Trond ....I'll have the kettle boiling ;) The Gagea only survives in a pot for me whereas i have different coloured forms of Anemone pavonina in various places in the garden.
Cheers Dave.
Thanks Dave ;D I'll tell you in advance but it won't be too soon ;)
Maybe I should try some of those anemones though! I do grow Gagea lutea in my garden but it is prone to slug damage :-\
Eastern European sources of bulbs:
In the NE USA, I've had problems with UK bulbs not thriving, some likely not suitable for climate, next season I plan to buy some from E Europe.
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Mark McDonough
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Wed, 05/09/2012 - 3:23pmCrow Garlic, Allium vineale, is edible. There are reports of a number of species of Allium, including regular garlic or Allium sativum, of having some toxicity when eaten in large quantities. Allium vineale is found as an invasive in approximately 1/2 of North America, and is listed on many States noxiopus weeds lists. It is very invasive here, and considered very difficult to eradicate. It will infest lawns, where eradication is nearly impossible. Bad onion!
http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Allium+vineale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allium_vineale
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ALVI&mapType=nativity&photoID...
Trond Hoy
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Thu, 05/10/2012 - 3:22amI have found out that she was wrong, indeed! She said it to teach us not to eat unknown plants in general and she probably had in mind another similar plant usually found farther south which actually is toxic.
Seed shouldn't be difficult to get. I'll keep you in mind (I hope!)
cohan (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Fri, 05/11/2012 - 10:55amThat's a very pretty Scilla, Trond, very lush :)
I don't know Allium vineale, but that reminds me of my childhood- we were told almost all berries were poisonous- except the obvious wild raspberries and strawberries.. gooseberries not poisononous but we were told they were usually full of worms so leave them alone... (still not sure about that!).. same idea- too hard to be sure what a bunch of kids are eating in the fields and bush!
bulborum (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Fri, 06/01/2012 - 3:49amWell Tulipa Ice-cream is a disaster
when you have a lot of rain
hope next year they look better
Roland
cohan (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Fri, 06/01/2012 - 11:44pmthe gardener's hope and comfort!
Trond Hoy
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Sat, 06/02/2012 - 1:04pmRoland, even single tulips often get messy here!
Toole (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Tue, 09/04/2012 - 2:53amFlowering off and on for the last two months Gagea fibrosa --close up of the small starry yellow flowers .Very easy from seed.
Yummy Anemone pavonina red.
Cheers Dave.
Howey (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Tue, 09/04/2012 - 8:09amMmm.. Really nice, Dave. Both are "must tries". Fran
Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b
cohan (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Tue, 09/04/2012 - 9:49amDave, are you in full spring yet, or are these late winter plants for you? Great colour on the Anemone :)
Steve Newall (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Tue, 09/04/2012 - 12:15pmFunny you should mention that Cohan . Just sitting here having the morning cuppa and thinking "Yep , it's spring now , the weather is turning nasty " . Usually this weather deterioration coincides with lambing ( which it has done ) . Going down to Dave's on a pilgrimmage run in a couple of weeks with my parents to see his very cool garden
Trond Hoy
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Tue, 09/04/2012 - 1:53pmCould I join you :D Well, it's too long a travel :( Here the weather is very autumn-ish at the moment - rain and westerly winds.But the temp isn't bad though, I still wear jandals ;D
I don't think Anemone pavonina would do a good figure in my garden - too wet for it's liking I presume - but maybe the Gagea would?
cohan (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Tue, 09/04/2012 - 10:29pmSo if your are going down to Dave's, you are then farther north- does that generally mean warmer? or is that direction offset by other factors?
We are mixing summery and near fall weather, but nights are getting chilly, and we are already seeing a hint of the fall windy weather..
I'm hoping to plant some spring bulbs if I find anything decent locally, but other than that, they will be many months away!
Toole (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Wed, 09/05/2012 - 2:08amThanks Fran.
You'd be most welcome to visit Trond ....I'll have the kettle boiling ;)
The Gagea only survives in a pot for me whereas i have different coloured forms of Anemone pavonina in various places in the garden.
I'm about 90 mins travel souwest along the coast from Steve --he will be a bit drier and sunnier ,maybe just as windy :-\ .....
Cheers Dave.
Toole (not verified)
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 2:28amRomulea columnae subsp. grandiscapa ,(syn.Romulea hartungii ),from the Canary Islands .
Cheers Dave.
Trond Hoy
Re: Miscellaneous spring bulbs 2012
Sun, 09/09/2012 - 1:08pmThanks Dave ;D I'll tell you in advance but it won't be too soon ;)
Maybe I should try some of those anemones though! I do grow Gagea lutea in my garden but it is prone to slug damage :-\
externmed (not verified)
Eastern European sources of
Sat, 12/07/2013 - 5:47pmEastern European sources of bulbs:
In the NE USA, I've had problems with UK bulbs not thriving, some likely not suitable for climate, next season I plan to buy some from E Europe.
Lithuania:
Augis Bulbs -- http://www.augisbulbs.com
Lithuanian Rare Bulb Garden -- http://www.litbulbgarden.com
Latvia:
Rare Bulb Nursery Latvia (Ruksans & Popova) -- http://rarebulbs.lv/index.php/en/
-- interesting, low "drone" filming of nursery -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZJBgewSSRI
Those in the USA should be reminded to look at Odyssey Bulbs -- http://www.odysseybulbs.com.
Charles Swanson, New England USA
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