I just thought people would be pleased to now that the Quarterly is now complete and has been uploaded to Allen Press in Kansas (6 hours uploading 600 Mb) who are currently producing color proofs for me to check over.
It's been quite a learning curve getting up to speed with InDesign (the software I'm using for layout), but I think that the result will be popular. As I said at the Annual in Salida, members will notice changes inside, although the cover and framework of this issue is in series with the previous 2010 issues - so that if you're someone who likes to file things in volumes you'll be quite happy. But there are changes inside: in layout, use of color and so on, that are very much what I've promised and that members have told me they hope to see.
If things all stay to schedule the Fall issue should be posted out in around 4 weeks.
I'm already starting to look at articles for the Winter issue and beyond, but like every editor I'm always on the lookout for new articles, great photos and so on. Please do get in touch.
And when the Quarterly gets to you, do feel free to let me know those things you like (and anything you don't). It's our Bulletin as members - we make it what it is.
Malcolm McGregor
Comments
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Thu, 09/09/2010 - 10:57amNew stuff? That's exciting! And I'm looking forward to it, whatever it might be.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Thu, 09/16/2010 - 3:17amProofs are signed off now with Allen Press and I hope that members will start receiving the Quarterly in the first week in October!
malcolm
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 09/27/2010 - 12:45amQuarterly is now printed and is being posted out from Allen Press in Kansas so you should be getting it pretty soon. I've had an advance copy and there are no obvious disasters so I'm much relieved!
Malcolm
Trond Hoy
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Tue, 10/05/2010 - 9:41amI got my copy today!
Congratulation, Malcolm, with a very fine magazine. I like the new format, especially with more pictures accompanying the articles.
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Tue, 10/05/2010 - 6:24pmA very fine edition. The format provides a less "academic" feel. I think it will be especially well received by newer members. I remember when I first joined: Dianthus deltoides (for example) didn't mean a thing to me. Having a picture right there with an article sure makes the pros a lot more inviting to read. And color throughout the Quarterly makes you want to peak at what all else is there!
Bravo!
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Thu, 10/07/2010 - 8:47amReally good that many people have now got the Quarterly and the responses have been very positive. Glad you like the use of pictures and what Rick says is exactly what I was trying to do so that is really good. I want to give the Quarterly a friendly feel which makes beginners feel comfortable and at the same time manage to include properly sophisticated articles.
Thanks to Trond and Rick for posting their congrats and to everyone else who has been in touch - do feel free - I will try and respond to ideas that are offered.
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 10/08/2010 - 7:19amOh that we could get ours as quickly on this side of the pond? :D I can't wait!
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 10/08/2010 - 10:07pmThat's one of the things I'm really keen to monitor Cliff so that I know just how long it takes to get to people in different places. Hope it arrives soon.
Sellars (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sat, 10/09/2010 - 8:04amIt's not just the pond Cliff, it's also the mountains and rivers. No sign of the Quarterly yet here in Western Canada. Mind you, once Canada Post takes on its part of the delivery chain, canoes do sometimes sink in the rapids.
Mark McDonough
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sat, 10/09/2010 - 7:00pmNo sign of the quarterly here either, although I was at a Berkshire Chapter NARGS meeting today, and a number of other NARGS members in Massachusetts got their copies. I still have my NARGS renewal invoice to pay, it's been here for a few weeks, maybe that is holding things up? Although I've been a member for almost 40 years, so hopefully the issue is just slowness with the mail.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 10/10/2010 - 4:30amI shouldn't think it is that your membership has lapsed (altho you could check with Bobby Ward) since the order that people receive the Quarterly seems pretty random. I'm going to enquire of Allen Press sometime about the dispatch process to try and find out why there are such discrepancies.
Fermi de Sousa
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 10/10/2010 - 3:37pmHi Malcolm,
I'll try to remember to let you know when it turns up down here!
cheers
fermi
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:13pmThat would be good fermi - and I haven't received my normal membership copy yet either.
Todd Boland
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 2:45pmStill haven't gotten mine :(
Mark McDonough
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Tue, 10/12/2010 - 4:39pmMine arrived today, only had a chance to quickly flip though it; I like the fresh new look inside. Will give it a proper read through tonight.
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 10/15/2010 - 5:10amThe new Quarterly arrived in Lancashire this morning, a super read Malcolm, hearty congratulations.
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Tue, 10/19/2010 - 6:06pmGot mine today! The new look is very nice... will start reading soon!
Sellars (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 10/20/2010 - 8:05pmThe RGQ has finally made it west of the Canadian Rockies. It was entrusted to Canada Post in Niagara Falls; probably trucked there from the US to avoid international postal costs.
The layout is excellent and I like the emphasis on actual rock gardening which gives the RGQ a distinctive flavour. Great job Malcolm. :D I suspect plaudits are also due to the NARGS Board for approving the additional printing costs with the use of colour throughout.
Fermi de Sousa
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 11/08/2010 - 11:36pmIt arrived yesterday!
Looks excellent and worth the wait! I'll be reading it while on holiday!
cheers
fermi
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Tue, 11/09/2010 - 5:23amI want to start by thanking all those who've posted such positive comments about the way the Quarterly looks and the range of content - more updates for the next issue which I'm deep into now - since the weather here has turned into winter - cold, wet hail this morning and this evening I'm driving a 90 miles across the North Yorkshire Moors to do a presentation - working on the new issue is a really good indoor activity.
The other main run of comments is about delivery time - seems that it takes about three weeks for it to progress from Lawrence, Kansas, to the furthest corners of the US - real snail mail! And to most of Canada and Europe (UK at least) much the same. Canadians copies I understand to be freighted to Canada in a batch before being individually dispatched on. So far Fermi, you hold the record with a five-and-a-half week delivery but then at least it feels like it's a good long distance delivery, and we all envy you being well on into spring. I do know that Todd (October 12th) finally got his copy (and a personal contributor's copy) just before he set off to South Africa. Anyway Membership Secretary Bobby Ward and I are keeping in touch with Allen Press about the process. Their statement to us was that 15 working days should see all US copies delivered. My objective is to have each issue ready for dispatch two months after the deadline date, so for the next issue, deadline was November 1st, and dispatch should be by January 1st. If its ready early that's a bonus but that is my target date.
One last thing to ckarify - going back to a comment by David Sellars (Oct 20th) the Fall issue was managed to come in at the same cost as the average of the previous four issues - 80 pages made up of 32+32+16 being a very cost-efficient form. But with the donations from last year toward more color and pages in the Quarterly it gives me the financial space to make some more changes which will be obvious with the Winter issue - then the only problem is to keep it up !
Fermi de Sousa
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 12/13/2010 - 10:25pmI finished reading the Quarterly on the plane back from India.
An excellent issue and I'm eagerly looking forward to the next!
I think the personal stories about using the Seedex were exactly what would encourage others to participate.
cheers
fermi
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 12/26/2010 - 2:57amPLeased you liked the Seedex article - I thought it came out well - hope it does have that effect!
The new issue is now in the post and people should start receiving it pretty soon now - before New Year I anticipate. It seems to take about three weeks from the first person tot he last person in the US, Canada only seems to be a few days behind that.
The printer is very efficient at getting things from me signing the issue off (when I finally say it's ready to print) and actually getting it into the post - no more than ten days. Apart from actually editing the articles, and doing the photo layouts (much of which obviously is well under way before the deadline) the most time-consuming (and unnerving) thing is color-balancing the photos for printing. The nature of the process always makes this a problem stage but I'm not unhappy with what has come through the process. And some of the photographs sent to me are so good that they deserve the very best its possible to give them.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - we've now had snow on the ground since 25th November with only about two days when we saw that the was grass and other things under the snow! Just hope the airports are open in Manchester, Chicago and DC so we can get to Washington for our New Year visit to our elder son and family. Last year it was Christmas when we came over and all three airports we used had been closed by snow two or three days before we travelled but had re-opened, do we're keeping our fingers crossed.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 12/29/2010 - 12:34amFirst couple of messages from people that they have now received the Quarterly - Phyllis Gustafson in southern Oregon and Mark McDonough in Massachusetts. Its rather like waiting for your seeds to germinate - but at least you know that it should be in the next couple of weeks.
Happy New Year
Robert Nold
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 12/29/2010 - 8:02amGot my RGQ yesterday. The whole thing is just beautiful.
I have one small complaint, though. Photographs of rosulate violas awaken my otherwise dormant acquisitive instinct, and perhaps next time an article like this is published, a small packet (say 1Kg) of seed could accompany the quarterly? You wouldn't have to send seed out to every NARGS member, just one.
Bob
Peter George
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 12/29/2010 - 5:41pmBeautiful!! I've already read it twice, and I'm still not satiated. Many thanks to our new editor for his exemplary product. We now have one very substantial reason to join NARGS. 4 issues like this one are worth the price of admission all by themselves. Thank you.
Amy Olmsted
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 12/29/2010 - 6:14pmI got my Q yesterday and have inhaled every word! Well done!! Love the photos throughout and the articles are so interesting & well written. Keep up the good work!
Mary Ann Ulmann
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 12/29/2010 - 6:38pmHasn't arrived in SE Pennsylvania yet but then it takes two weeks for something from Denver to get here so we shall be patient!!!
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 01/03/2011 - 6:26pmGot my RGQ today here in Minnesota. Now I see what all the hubbub is about!
Most Excellent! I haven't actually read anything yet, but it is so enticing....
I want to read it during my hour lunches at work, but I don't know if I can wait that long!
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:56amGreat to know the Quarterly is spreading out - heard from Sue Olsen in Bellevue, WA, that its got to her, so its getting around. And its really nice that people like the new format. Hope its going to start arriving in Europe in the next week.
Limpert (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:07amI just received my NARGS journal last week and have to say all the changes have made for an awesome read. Absolutely nothing to dislike.
Great work to everyone involved.
Norm
Howey (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:03pmHi Norm: As a rather old "newbie", welcome. Guess, since you have already received the Quarterly, mine shouldn't be long in coming either. I too like the new format - the old one was great as well but sometimes a change is refreshing, both for editors and recipients. Am amazed at all the volunteer work that goes into these things. Fran
Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b
Richard T. Rodich
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:15pmHello Norm,
Glad to see you here as well.
Hope you find the forum as informative as I do!
Mary Ann Ulmann
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:09pmJust curious if anybody on the East Coast has received a copy yet. I was hoping to get it before we get snowed in and the USPS decides to not run!
Anne Spiegel
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:44pmMary Ann, I just got mine towards end of last week. Yours must be on the way.
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 01/12/2011 - 5:05amNot arrived in northern England yet Malcolm.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 01/12/2011 - 6:58amMy own copy hasn't arrived this side of the Pennines either, Cliff - but now I'm starting to expect it any day !
And for Mary Ann and Chuck - on the East Coast of US Bill Brown on Long Island has got it a couple of days ago -and he's often a late arrival. So it can't be long.
Trond Hoy
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:42pmI haven't got mine either. Have been looking for it the last weeks!
Lori S. (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 9:16amI finally got mine on Jan. 13 - lots of interesting reading! I like the new format - very fresh and colourful, and it is especially nice to have photos within the articles.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 11:34amGood to know its got to you Lori. And that you liked it.
Still no sign that it has arrived in Europe (including UK) - you're not the only one Trond - hope its close.
Jennifer Wainwr...
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/16/2011 - 10:23pmMy copy arrived last Friday (14th) and it's been a great weekend read! I find the new format with pictures throughout very reader friendly. Thanks for all the hard work!
Fermi de Sousa
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Mon, 01/17/2011 - 9:06pmHasn't made it to Australia yet (at least not to Central Victoria)
cheers
fermi
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 1:43amHi Malcolm,
No sign of my Quarterly yet, but I have been informed that a member just north of me received hers two days ago.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 2:19amMy personal copy has arrived this morning so yours should be there any time. Copies left Allen Press on December 17th (for everywhere) so we are obviously all at the whim of US and international postal services. I always used to reckon that it took up to six weeks for my copy to arrive in England after the nominal publication date. Doesn't seem to be quite that long - and this was a difficult issue to judge by because of Christmas and New Year. Apparently foreign copies go to Chicago where they are sent overseas in country batches (perhaps only twice a week) and only then split up and sent on individually.
Trond Hoy
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 5:04amGot it ;D Marvellous, the magazine I mean.
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 8:21amIt arrived today Malcolm ... I couldn't possibly comment on the contents. ;D ;D ;D
Trond Hoy
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 9:45amWell, I can Cliff! Now that I have had time to take a look.
Congratulation with your pictures. But I have to say: That was no big surprise :o :D
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Fri, 01/21/2011 - 11:37amMany thanks Trond ... much appreciated.
Fermi de Sousa
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Wed, 01/26/2011 - 3:30pmMy copy arrived on Monday 24th January - I like the new look and the content is great!
A friend in Melbourne (Cynthia Sladen) received her copy on Tuesday - usually the post to us is a day behind.
cheers
fermi
Cliff Booker
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sat, 01/29/2011 - 8:16pmJust a thought folks ... why are there no references to, or PDF samples of, the Rock Garden Quarterly on the NARGS main website?
Surely these splendid journals are one of the prime incentives for joining our wonderful society and yet they barely merit a mention on the current site.
Specimen back copies should be downloadable and sample pages of the latest Quarterly should be featured prominently on their own page.
McGregorUS (not verified)
Re: Rock Garden Quarterly
Sun, 01/30/2011 - 4:03amJust got back last night from family visiting so it's not that I've been ignoring comments - just away.
Really pleased that it's got to you Fermi - and that you liked it so much - it only seems to take about a week longer to get to Australia than the UK which is quite encouraging. And I hope that the next one will get from dispatch to members rather quicker since Christmas won't be a factor.
I quite agree Cliff about posting some pages etc from the Quarterly but I've been waiting for members to get their copies first - I wanted people to see it first when it arrived through their letter boxes rather than on the website. Hope to get some of that posting done this week. As far as downloadable back issues NARGS is looking to digitize past issues and that's a whole different job. But some pdfs of this last issue will be appearing. And then after each issue I'll post some elements once it has reached members.
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