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I've had the following request out on the SRGC forum for some time without much luck. I'll try again here - these are seldom or never offered in the seedexes. I understand that seed is ripe quite early in the year:
"I am looking for various North American Toothworts (Dentaria spp) such as Dentaria laciniata, multifida, heterophylla, diphylla, californica, tenella, pucherrima, gemmata, nuttallii etc. Can anyone help?
Pay or trade."
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Trond Hoy
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 6:11amStephen, you know that Dentaria and Cardamine are synonyms? You can find several of the plants by looking at Cardamine laciniata etc ;)
Margaret Young
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 8:05amI hope you have more success here in the "home of these plants, Stephen.... I can't say I know of many growing them in the UK.
Stephen Barstow
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:21amYes, thanks for pointing that out, Trond! I was aware of this and have searched for both in the seedexes. It seems that they are all now classified as Cardamine, but Dentarias are different in having fleshy(edible) rhizomes which the bittercresses (Cardamine) do not. I thought people would be more familiar with the name Dentaria...
Trond Hoy
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 12:42pmI thought you would know; Stephen ;D
I grow several Cardamines but not any American. I sowed californica this spring and 2-3 have germinated and grow as cress ;D Seem they will flower this summer!
The showiest is this pentaphylla though.
Stephen Barstow
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 1:18pmSo, you do now have an American Cardamine! Where did you get seed?
I have seedlings of Cardamine douglasii and pensylvanica - the latter looks like it would be very weedy like hirsuta...
Pentaphyllos and macrophylla are the most floriferous ones here so far...
Richard T. Rodich
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Wed, 04/27/2011 - 5:13pmI'll put you on my list for Cardamine laciniata seed, too, Stephen. It certainly does seed early: last year I was too late when I went to collect seed. I will email you when the time is near. No other Cardamine spp. are native here, and I don't have any other in the garden either.
Stephen Barstow
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 1:27amThanks for that, appreciate it!
Howey (not verified)
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 5:25amHi Stephen: Have tried twice already to send you a note about Dentaria in my garden plus a picture - it's been so long since I did this that I guess I need a refresher course. Anyway, we'll skip the words and see if the picture will go through this time. Fran
Frances Howey
London, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5b
Trond Hoy
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 9:30amHere is Cardamine waldsteinii - also a charming shade tolerant plant in flower now. I think it has the hugest flowers of the genus.
Richard T. Rodich
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Thu, 04/28/2011 - 8:19pmI'm not sure how to frame this question, but since Cardamine laciniata is the only one I am familiar with,
are all cardamine species ephemeral?
Any experience with self fertility/infertility?
Trond Hoy
Re: North American Dentarias (Toothworts)
Fri, 04/29/2011 - 5:29amAll Cardamines I have are more or less ephemeral. However, if the summer is moist some of them keep their leaves for a long time.
C pentaphyllos, enneaphyllos and waldsteinii seem to be self-incompatible as they never or seldom set seed (have only one clone of each). Heptaphylla sets plenty of fertile seed and bulbifera sets lots of bulbils. Pratensis is so common that they always produce seed and even parts of leaves and stem can root.