North American Columbines - starting with Aquilegia saximontana

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deesen
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Thanks Lori but I really am a dunce when it comes to plant ID's. Thanks also to Mark. Two further images below that I hope will be useful.

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b

RickR
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Ha!

Looks like a mutt, to me.  The real thing, apparently, isn't that common in seed exchanges. 

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Lori S.
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I'd like to hear Mark's opinion but after reviewing all the info on S. saximontana that he posted previously in this thread, I'd also guess it's a hybrid of A. saximontana, given the anomalous spur form and the gradual shading from blue to white on the corolla.  What do you say, Mark?

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Mark McD
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I agree with Lori and Rick, looks like a hybrid to me as well, it has the "court jester shoe" coil at the end of the spurs like flabellata does, but not quite so strongly coiled as usual, which leads me to suspect a hybrid, closer to flabellata. The spurs head more or less straight back on David's plant, versus the narrower divergent slightly-arched spurs on saximontana that spread outwards, without a coiled end.  These two links show the spur differences:

A. flabellata
http://www.kiksi.lv/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Aquilegia-flabellata.jpg

A. saximontana
https://www.nargs.org/comment/3606#comment-3606
https://www.nargs.org/comment/3601#comment-3601

Court jester shows, remind me of coiled spur tips on Aquilegia flabellata.
http://www.ocostumes.com/htc/15ha02ry.jpg
https://www.heritagecostumes.com/secure/images/products/5061.jpg
 

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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deesen
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Mark, thanks for that, I'm grateful to you for your time. it's still a pretty little thing though and I like it a lot. I shall have to contact all the people I've given seedlings to.

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b

Mark McD
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My pleasure David, I'm always up for a little mystery.  It is indeed a pretty little columbine.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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ChrisB
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Can anyone tell me whether this A. saximontana please?

Chris Northumberland UK

Lori S.
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It doesn't look like it, compared to the splayed "court jester" spurs of the real thing (shown in previous photos in this thread).

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

deesen
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Join the club Chris (No It's Not Aquilegia Saximontana Society)

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b

ChrisB
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Well, look who's here... Nice to meet you Mr Nicholson!   

Thanks very much Lori, I'll have to try more seed...  

Chris Northumberland UK

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