New NARGS Forum - Issues, Question, Suggestions

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Longma
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IMYoung wrote:

!  I think I've got it now.....

Maggi

I have found that the speed of resizing is possibly dependant on the upload speed of my connection. Sometimes it does it immediately, sometimes it does take longer. However, I still love the idea of ' set it and forget it' ( with due apologies!), as it means the pictures retained in my files dont need to be duplicated / reduced/ renamed etc. Each to their own ways though, :)

53.69° N, Dedicated to West Coast Fritillaria, plus three other members of the subgenus Liliorhiza. I grow other Genera, as time permits !

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Glad it's coming together for you now Maggi.

Another nuance, figured out why my title text was not showing when mousing over my images, if one edits a message and adds Title text to an image after the fact, newly added title text is ignored.  To fix that, highlight the embedded image in the message, delete it, drop your cursor where you want the image, add your Title text, now click Insert, and that version of the embedded image will use the assigned Title text.

Of course, the best habit will be to add Title Text initially when uploading embedded images, and *before* hitting the Insert button to place the image.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Similar to what Lori and Rick reported, there's some odd lock-down on copy-&-paste operations.  To avoid losing drafted messages in forums and social media if the post fails, I always try to copy the textual portion of the draft before posting, as a backup should the post fail. When I tried tonight, to copy a short paragraph from a message composed on the forum (so I could copy it to Notepad), it gives the following error and prevents the Copy and Paste. This seems to be a bug.

 

Addenda: after being prevented from copying text in my NARGS Forum message draft, I posted the message, then went back into Edit mode, and then the Copy-&-Paste function is allowed... weird.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Lori S.
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-10-27

1.  What's the difference between "Active Topics" and "New and Updated Topics"?  Seems redundant.   (That reminds me that I looked at the forum once earlier today and did not see the "New and Updated Topics" choice, but I see it again now.)

2. The forum used to allow me to start a message, then do a browser search (e.g. look up a plant or a link to add to the message) and return to the message.  It doesn't work like that anymore... the connection to the original message is severed, and you return to a blank screen.  (I hate websites that do this!)

3.  Posting a photo used to be a one step process ("Upload file"); now it seems to be 2 to 3 steps ("Select file/Upload" or "Select file/Upload/Insert").  The simplicity of one step was nice, however, the abilty in the new system to move photos around by dragging and dropping is nice too.

4.  Do we really need to know that every photo posted has been "resized to fit within the maximum allowed dimensions of 800x800 pixels" (see example, below).  Would it be possible for there to be just a single brief statement that this WILL be done to all photos?

When posting multiple photos, you end up with a long, long string of these messages which takes up a lot of screen room and means a lot of scrolling to get from the dialog box down to the bottom of the page where the photo manipulation takes place.

5.  I'm not sure what "My Workbench" and "My Drafts" are meant for, or whether they are different.  

I just noticed in "My Workbench" that "My Edits - Five of the most recently updated pieces of content" is inaccurate.  Or at least it isn't "THE five most recently updated items", as I'd assume it's meant to show.

 

6.  I don't see how you change the font size or font colour anywhere?  

7.  A downside of only being able to see the last reply (or the particular posting you are replying to), as opposed to seeing a page-full of past replies in the old system, is that one can't add quotes from different replies.  This was handy to be able to do in the old system.

8.  Looking back through old threads in Plant Travels and Excursions, it seems that the photos from some of my posts are gone.  It seems to happen in the first post in a thread, if it's going to happen (and doesn't happen in every thread).

 

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Good points Lori, let me share and compare thoughts on each of your 8 points.

1.  Regarding "Active Topics" and "New and Updated Topics", active topics shows a listing of topics that most recently had replies (thus active). In lieu of having the ability to "subscribe" or "set notification" for topics as we had in the previous NARGS SMF forum, this comes closest.  I REALLY MISS the ability to set a topic as "new"; I check the forum and click "New and Updated Topics" which shows those topics you have not actually visited since a new response has come in, then think "I really must respond to that", and I do that for several messages, but previously I could set that those topics "as new" so that I wouldn't miss responding to them later. So, looking through "Active Topics" comes closest, unless Daniel knows of a way to flag a topic "as new".

2.  I see what you're saying about browser window back-and-forth continuity, but the workaround that I use, open a second tab, even if to look at a second instance of NARGS Forum; I'm okay with that.

3. Yes, there are more steps uploading/posting photos (sort of), but there's more flexibility here. Doing "inline" or embedded photos previously, one had to write out [attachthumb=1]  [attachthumb=2], etc; a manual process.  In this forum, upload the image, add Title Text (mouse-over pop-up text), place the cursor, and hit insert... don't like it's placement, highlight-and-delete it, reposition the cursor, hit Insert again; lots of flexibility, I actually like it now that I understand it.  The first hour or so working with it, I was rather befuddled by the process... it may be challenging for forumists, we'll have to recreate some How-To docs.

4. So far as the notification about the auto-resizing of images, I'm good with this.  It reinforces what the Max image size is.  I'm a firm believer of actually resizing images to fit within agreed upon maximum constraints, for best image quality, so will continue to do so rather than allow auto-resizing.  However, the fact it will auto-resize images to fit, is awesome, sort of the best of both worlds.  The resizing doesn't happen to all images, only those that have an X or Y dimension > 800 pixels.

4a.  I agree regarding the long list page size when uploading multiple images, requiring scrolling, the developers of Drupal could have made the interface more concise, but overall I like the flexibility the upload process provides, so scrolling is the small price to pay.

5. "My Workbench" and "My Drafts", I have no idea, I haven't looked at these yet.

6.  I'm truly surprised, given this day and age, that there are no controls here to change font size and color!!!  Nor change the font itself. Seems almost prehistoric to not have full "rich text" capabilities, these basics have been in web pages and every email editor for the past 15 yrs or more.  I don't think most users here will want to fiddle with HTML tags to get some effects.  Daniel, can the forum Edit window be allowed to use Rich Text, with selectable font, color and size?  And no emoticons!  What a joy-kill that is, its these personalizations that can make the forum experience fun, like Skype chat.

7. Seeing only the last message when composing a message, I agree completely, I really liked the old forum where one could see a whole page of previous messages.  No I resort to my workaround, open two NARGS Forum browser tabs, one for reference, one for active edit.

8. Missing images in the first post of many topics.  Yes, this appears to be a bug in the data migration from the old forum to the new one.  Another question for

Daniel: what corrective actions can be taken to find the photos that existing in the old forum, that have been missed by the data import, to get them restored?  Similarly, can a scripted "search and replace" be done to fix the hundreds of NARGS Forum urls from the old form, to correct the path to work on the new forum?  Or, are the hundreds of broken URLs too different to be automatically fixed, thus stay broken? Please advise.

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New one (9.):  Lori mentioned this earlier.  When I deleted a topic today (it was just a redirection type of message created after I split a topic in the old forum), it throws me out to the root of NARGS.org, not sure why it does that.  I was in the "Unanswered" topics view, which I like, a good reminder to taken action on such topics, but deleting a topic there should remain in that view, not throw me out to NARGS home page.

 

 

 

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Lori S.
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-10-27

I seems odd that when I open a thread that has more than one photo posted in it, sometimes it is possible to flip through the enlarged photos one by one using the right/left arrow keys, and other times it isn't and the photos have to be enlarged one by one.

Yes, you're right, Mark - the photo posting function is much more versatile now.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

The enlarged photos have worked for me, that is, they display for the user's post, and right/left arrow keys work.  The anomalies I've seen, is that the right/left arrows will continue on to other posts (sometimes) ... need to figure out if it happens to other posts from the same user, or randomly just other posts from any user.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Feature Fix Request:  In the Private Message view, some messages do not show the "participant" name (the person(s) who sent you the message), and the time stamp is only by year which is sort of ridiculous, needs to be normalized to show regular date format of day-month-year and time.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

RickR
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-09-21

Lori S. wrote:

4.  Do we really need to know that every photo posted has been "resized to fit within the maximum allowed dimensions of 800x800 pixels" (see example, below).  Would it be possible for there to be just a single brief statement that this WILL be done to all photos?

When posting multiple photos, you end up with a long, long string of these messages which takes up a lot of screen room and means a lot of scrolling to get from the dialog box down to the bottom of the page where the photo manipulation takes place.

I find this very anoying also.  When posting many photos, having to scroll through a page and more of "your photo was resized" messages each time, to load----place cursor in text where needed----insert.........and for each photo, is not at all effective.  If we can't get rid of the multiple resizing messages, can we at least make them not take up so many lines of space?

 

I really miss the "mark as new" (or "mark as unread" feature, too.

 

New one (10). I also miss having the ability to go to any page of the thread from both the top of the page and the bottom.  (As it is now, it's only available at the bottom.)

 

I've also noticed that using the arrows in the enlarge photo mode can continue to the next message.

 

Regarding "Participants" in my Messages list, it seems the only ones listed have (or had) some sort of administrative access: me, Mark, Lori, Todd Boand, Chris K., Peter George, Hugh, McGregor...

Although, since the big change, I haven't had any pm's from "plain" forum members.

 

 

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

RickR wrote:

Regarding "Participants" in my Messages list, it seems the only ones listed have (or had) some sort of administrative access: me, Mark, Lori, Todd Boand, Chris K., Peter George, Hugh, McGregor...

Although, since the big change, I haven't had any pm's from "plain" forum members.

 

In the screen capture of my Inbox, participant names appeared from regular forum users and admins, all messages prior to the forum migration do not list who the message is from, and at the top was a message sent to myself as a text, the participant field is blank.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

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