New NARGS Forum - Issues, Question, Suggestions

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Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14
New NARGS Forum - Issues, Question, Suggestions

Hello all, we survived the transition from the former NARGS Forum software format, to this new web-based forum that is directly integrated with the NARGS.ORG web site.  With any transition, there are growing pains, issues to contend with and things to sort out. Please bear with us as we strive to iron out the wrinkles; this topic was created as a clearinghouse of issues and information on the new forum that will help us create a better experience.  Please feel free to ask questions and make suggestions. As we discover solutions and our web implementation specialist enables new features, they will be posted here.

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Okay, just spent 1/2hr writing a first reply with information on problems uploading messages, did a Preview of my post, okayed it and the message disappeared (vaporized).  Lesson learned, don't trust composing messages on forums, or even Facebook, always copy and paste the contents of the message into a text editor *before* attempting to post the message.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

If you have had problems uploading images to NARGS Forum, please let us know the details.  Personally I have had errors, occurring erratically, when trying to upload "embedded images" or "image attachments", sometimes getting an "AJAX HTTP" error message, even though using the same images that work to upload sometimes, but not other times.  I know that moderator Lori Skulski has also reported the same issue.

The web developer responded to this report by saying "I can't seem to reproduce this issue. Are forum user still getting this error when uploading images? Does the issue occur in a specific browser and/or version? Does it happen when creating the forum topic or adding a reply or both?".

I primarily use Firefox 9.0.1, not Internet Explorer.  I have not created many new forum topics (this is my first on the new new forum), but it has happened many times when attempting to reply to an existing topic.

Any questions or issues on uploading images, please respond here!
 

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Lori S.
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-10-27

Hi, Mark,

Re. AJAX HTTP error

I 've had it occur most recently when adding a reply, while using Safari.  

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Lori S.
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-10-27

More oddities...

1)  When one attempts to "copy and paste" from other messages or other sites or to post links, a box appears as shown below:

 

It says that "because of your browser security settings, the editor is not able to access your clipboard data directly.  You are required to paste it agian in this window" .  I haven't changed my browser security settings, but now a simple "copy/paste" appears to take multiple (3?) steps.

Do other users have this problem?

 

2)  When the process above is accomplished, the pasted message sometimes comes out in a random font size, which does not match the default font size being used in the forum.   I don't see that there is any actual way to change the font size in the reply box.   Perhaps I am missing something... ?

Edit:  Even stranger... the random font size is visible in the posting box while I am composing the message, but it seems to come out correctly when the message is posted (see below)...???

https://www.nargs.org/forum/terrestrial-orchids?page=11#comment-23217

3)  After posting a reply to a thread, I am sometimes basically kicked out of the forum, and have to re-enter the forum form the "Home" screen.  This is very inconvenient. 

4)  The Amazon ad on the right-hand part of the screen is new... which is fine, but I always see it floating inside my Reply box, obscuring any text beneath it (see below):

5)  When replying to a thread now, you only see the last reply or the specific one to which you are replying.  The previous format, where you could see a page-full of previous replies was vastly better, as you could easily respond to comments made by different people in different threads.  

More to follow...

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

RickR
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-09-21

I use Firefox 21.0, and I haven't had anything not work.  But the "oddities" as Lori puts it, abound.

 

1.  I get the EXACT same dialog box that you do, Lori.  On top of that, when I try to copy something already typed into the reply box by highlighting as usual, I get this

"Your browswer security settings don't permit the editor to automatically execute copying operations.  Please use the keyboard for that(Cntrl/Com+C)."

 

I never get any ad pop ups anywhere.  Firefox adblock plus does a really good job!

2. The individual message texts that accompany when reply is annoying.  I'd much rather have the entire thread at my disposal, or nothing at all.

3. And I suppose this is due to my browser incompatibility?

When I open a thread to a new message, the word "new" is in red and superimposed on the message heading,  Makes it difficult to read.

4. Firefox use to auto spell check everything I type, everywhere on the web.  Now there is a "special" spell check here that I would have to start teaching all over again.

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Very interesting with multiple sets of eyes looking at forum issues, more issues are revealed.

With the switch over to the new forum, USERNAMES defaulted back to be using the forumist's names. Per trial and error, we discovered that only Administrators & Moderators can change usernames.  I did this for "Ronaldo", changing his USERNAME back to his previous one, "Longma".  However, there seems to be a side effect whereby the number of posts under the forumist's avatar is always listed as Posts: 1, not showing his true number of posts, it is stuck at 1.  So, two issues:

1. Is there sufficient level of security granularity on the Drupal site, to allow forum users to change their own USERNAME.  It's not  big deal, if it has to be done by a moderator, perhaps as part of the larger overall security outlook, then fine; just asking the question.

2. If a USERNAME is changed, how to address the side effect mentioned above.  I changed my own username to Mark McD, but for me, the number of posts is showing correctly.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Longma
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Title: Guest
Joined: 2012-11-19

I didn't comment on this Mark, because I no longer see the number of posts for anyone! Not a big issue for me however, :)

screen capture showing no indication of posts made

53.69° N, Dedicated to West Coast Fritillaria, plus three other members of the subgenus Liliorhiza. I grow other Genera, as time permits !

RickR
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-09-21

I noticed this too, but hadn't discovered why until you said Mark.  I guess we, as moderators, have special consideration, as opposed to guests.  I wonder how a NARGS member username change reacts.....

 

By the way, when I changed my username, it took a day (or at least more than 2 hours) for the username to change in the very top menu bar (Contact,username,renew,log out), although in the forum messages themselves, the change was immediate.  .....Just a note, in case it may help with some other bugs in the future.

 

Ron, what browswer are you using?

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Longma
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Title: Guest
Joined: 2012-11-19

RickR wrote:

Ron, what browser are you using?

I'm using Google Chrome.

I haven't experienced any of the other frustrating problems recorded so far. Once I got my head around the structure of this new forum ( I must admit I was seriously daunted when first confronted with it!! ), I find it a real improvement on the old structure. Many of the new features make contributing easier and less time consuming ( auto resizing of pictures, auto layout, good spell check facilities ++ ), and I find the viewing much more focused and cleanly organised, and only having to open one picture per post then being able to enlarge each in turn without going in and out is much smoother. I also think that the picture quality ( a key for a forum ? ) is much improved, for whatever reason. Some of the missing items such as no number of posts, status title of each member etc. are really of no interest to me, and probably are only of interest to administration.

I can even use the English spelling of 'organised' without being constantly corrected ! :)

53.69° N, Dedicated to West Coast Fritillaria, plus three other members of the subgenus Liliorhiza. I grow other Genera, as time permits !

RickR
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-09-21

Oh this just in, regarding the superimposed "reply" mentioned above: I opened 3 updated thread within seconds of each other in succession - the first and third are not superimposes (for the first time), and the second one is....

         

Also noticed another change when embedding images: the "browse" now shows the image file name rather than the file location in my pc.  I like that.

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

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