On the Wiki - at the moment when we refer to plants we nearly always go to Google because the amount of information is so immense. Where the Wiki scores is when you are writing more of a blog or diary about projects in the garden and illustrations can be drawn more intimately from there - many will do this from their own archives. There are some fine images on there and if they were referred to more on the Forum itself maybe more people would go to look at them? This is somewhere where the AGS Forum can score because the way it is set up is conducive to ongoing diaries even if few contribute these.
Dr. Timothy John Ingram
Faversham, Kent, UK
I garden in a relatively hot and dry region (for the UK!), with an annual rainfall of around 25", winter lows of -10°C and summer highs of 30°C.
So Malcom you don't want to take up knitting for those long winter nights? I know you have then on the other side of the pond. Sorry about the login business on Ravelry. I've been a member for long enough I'd forgotten about that since I have my computer set to stay logged in whenever possible. I completely agree that is one aspect of Ravelry we wouldn't want to emulate. Unfortunate people can't check it out without joining.
I think Malcolm has a really good point about having everything visible on the front page without having to scroll down. All the really good features should be clearly visible on the front page. People don't stick around if they're frustrated.
Jan Jeddeloh, Portland, Oregon, USA, Zone 8. Rainy winters (40 inches or 1 meter) and pleasant dry summers which don't start until July most years!
Nice idea Jan!
A site which does carry a lot of information and options on its home page
Global Moderator/NARGS Editor
East Yorkshire, UK
Another site that You might have opinions on would be http://www.bbg.org/. I especially would like to know your thoughts on the drop-down menus.
(Moderator: edited URL to be a live link, MMcD :) )
Daniel Dillon (artist) & Esther Wrightman (gardener)
St. Andrews, New Brunswick.
Daniel, excellent web page example. An it does truly achieve that "fit it all on one page" homepage. I like it!
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
Thanks for posting the Drupal examples. I have no personal favorite -- as already mentioned, they're pretty generic. I don't like having to scroll down to the bottom of the page to find interesting links. For folks with slower internet connections, the more scrolling that's needed, the less likely they are to explore the site.
The BBG webpage is super -- an excellent example.
Bellevue, Washington Zone 7-8
I too like the bbg website. They did pull down menus right. The background of each item changes when you hover over it so you know where to click. Most excellent. We've all dealt with websites with drop down or side pull menus that don't work or disappear if you're 1 mm off their dinky field. Drives me nuts. It also quickly drives me to better designed websites. It's important to make sure any drop down or side pull menus aren't "touchy".
Also will our new website be ADA compliant? Unfortunately we're all one accident or illness away from a disability.
Also will our new website be ADA compliant?
Also will our new website be ADA compliant?
Hi Jan. ADA compliance is a tall order. Our web site is not required to be ADA-compliant and, unfortunately for the disabled, is outside of the scope of the current development contract. Elements can be incorporated over time, but this would have to be made a priority before any action would be taken. Here is a good list of ADA criteria: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/webmaster/creating-an-ada-compliant-website/1425
no excessive scrolling - checkno dinky fields - check
Frances and I agree that the Brooklyn Botanic Garden's site is an excellent one particularly for is very useful and easy to read drop down menus. This is a clean, functional site and can accommodate Malcolm’s suggestions for what he would like to see on the home page.
I would also like to draw attention to another remarkable Drupal site that Daniel has suggested. It is the site for the Pharmacy Department at UCSF Medical School, http://pharmacy.ucsf.edu and also uses sophisticated drop menus where one screen space does it all. This is both a remarkably simple and very elegant site that can easily fit our requirements. The vertical tab bar and associated windows can handle the major features, the Forum and the Quarterly, for example, that we want to promote. The horizontal bars, I am guessing, can be adapted to the login/signin and search utilities. Lots of nice touches. For example, the information about the background picture.
In case anyone has missed it Daniel Dillon is the both the brains and the technical moving force behind our new website project. He has devoted a great deal of his valuable time and thought to this project. NARGS is truly fortunate to have his help.
I am completely in favor of drop down menus. You can really cram a lot of links on a page without it looking cluttered. What a joy it is to search for whatever you are looking for without having to download another page to see if it is there, then have go back and try another if it's not right. Just mouse over the icon (or whatever it may be) and you preview without any hassle. And for anyone with a slow connection, drop down menus are heaven!
Rick Rodich zone 4a. Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA