Lilies, anyone?

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Lori S.
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How long does it take from scaling a bulb to blooming size?

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Mark McD
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No time to respond, except to say that I'M REALLY ENJOYING THESE MARVELOUS LILIES, they're all so gorgeous.  I have such a problem with lily beetle, that I stopped considering the genus, but a friend tells me that the summer blooming species like L. martagon are less bothered by the pests, is that true?

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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Lori S.
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So far, in my limited experience with lily beetles (which is only over 3 years now... and already I hate them with a passion!), it seems they are somewhat less attracted to martagons than to asiatic hybrids.  However, I'm sure someone with experience local to your zone/area will be able to give some more relevant commentary.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

RickR
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Lori, that small furry bud martagon has some really narrow foliage for a martagon.  Love the diversity.  All of my martagons have wider leaves to some degree.  This one has the "best" foliage:

                        27 Jun 2011
             

Tony, your subspecies cattaniae are very special (and beautiful!).  What time of year did you harvest scales?

Mark, martagons may be summer blooming, but they are in general among the earliest of the genus.  Don't let the timing of this thread mess you up: while Lori's martagons might be concurrent, mine are not (and are long gone).  I've edited dates in for my previous photos. 

The lily beetle has not arrived in Minnesota ... yet.

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Tony Willis
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Rick

I collected the scales the first week in May which is when I know I was in Greece and can therefore be accurate about the timing.

However below are two martagons I purchased late November last year and before planting I took some scales of the bulbs and have got new plants from them.

I do not think it matters when you do it ,just when the material is available and the only difference is the time when the new bulbil produces its first leaf.

The 'albiflorum' is not one I was really taken with but the 'red russian' is really beautiful.

I also have Lilium polyphyllum which I grew from seed. This flowered for the first time this year and appears to have set seed.

RickR
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I have read that with certain species, timing is import for successful scaling: L. szovitsianum to be exact, which is why I ask.  Supposedly, scales removed in the fall yielded no bulblets, while those taken in summer, especially right after bloom, produced many bulblets.

Nice photos.  I have seen pics of albiflorum with fewer spots, and I think I like those better, although yours is nothing to scoff at!  Lilium polyphyllum is indeed a great find! (And from seed, too. Congratulations!)

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

RickR
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More martagon cultivars:

Claude Shride (a Minnesota introduction) usually has a few spots on each flower.  I must have twenty bulbs of this vigorous clone, and this year none have spots at all!

              16 Jun 2011
       

Also this year, the white striping on the back is very prominent.  I noticed this on one of your lilies, too, Lori.

             

Terrace City
                     23 Jun 2011
       

Lilium taliense "var. kaichen"
I only have one and the species is self infertile.  I hand pollenated almost every flower with pollen from various species and hybrids, but the only pollen it has accepted to date is Lilium lijiangense and Lilium duchartrei.

                     24 Jun 2011
             

              2 Jul 2011
       

                 

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Tony Willis
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Rick

I have never grown any of the Turkish lilies or indeed on my nineteen trips there actually seen one in the wild always being too early and therefore have no experience with scaling them. I hope to start growing some in the near future.

The Claude Schride is very nice and from your pictures appears to be very close to Red Russian which in the flesh is stunning.

I have a number of the Chinese ones coming on that I have imported and on the whole the names are wrong and since most have not flowered yet I do not have an identification.

killdawabbit
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I love the pics, everyone. Now I'm dying to try some martagons. I only have a few common varieties so far.

Kyle McAfee, z6b, Middle Tennessee a little south of Nashville.

Booker
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The beautiful, but always slightly incongruous, Lilium bulbiferum thriving at Val Gardena in the Dolomites. July 2011.

Cliff Booker A.K.A. Ranunculus
On the moors in Lancashire, U.K.
Usually wet, often windy, sometimes cold ... and that's just me!

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