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« on: February 11, 2012, 09:49:28 AM »

Am I right? Is this Corydalis scouleri?
It's getting very large - about 1m high.


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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2012, 06:04:10 PM »

Unfortunately, it's not one I'm familiar with (not that I am so familiar with any corydalis, actually).  Maybe with bumping this up again, some of the folks from the Pacific northwest, where C. scouleri is native, might be able to comment.

It does look like it:
http://www.pnwflowers.com/flower/corydalis-scouleri
http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/Atlas/Atlas.aspx?sciname=Corydalis%20scouleri
http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/ShowDBImage/gallery.aspx?page=0&specrep=0&code=PDFUM030A0
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?query_src=photos_index&rel-taxon=contains&where-taxon=Corydalis%20scouleri
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2012, 08:42:41 PM »

I agree it does look right.  Wow, that's a Corydalis on steroids (size-wise)!
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2012, 09:19:02 PM »

folks from the Pacific northwest, where C. scouleri is native, might be able to comment.

Being one of the Pacific northwest natives (both the scouleri and myself), I also agree it looks like C. scouleri.  In a good location (moisture with some sun), they can easily reach 4 feet.

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2012, 01:15:48 PM »

Corydalis scouleri: Extract from "Bleeding Hearts, Corydalis and their Relatives" Tebbit, Liden and Zetterlund-Timber Press 2008.

"A large stoloniferous perennial 50-120cm. tall. Stems rounded, hollow, usually with 3 leaves at or above the middle of the stem. Leaves (as in all members of the section Archaeocapnos) with rouned membbranous stipules, 3 or occasionally 4 times pinnately divided, green above, glaucus beneath. Racems simple or branched, narrow, usually with fewer than 25 flowers, but occasionally up to 35. Flowers held almost vertical, pale to deep purplish pink; outer petals lacking a rim but with conspicuous entire apical crests; spur 14-20mm long; inner petals 9-10mm long. Capsule strongly reflexed, obovate, explosively dehiscent. 2n=ca. 130-150. Self compatible to some degree, but normally cross-pollinated."

"Named in honour of John Scouler who at the age of 20 collected plants while working as the surgeon and naturalist on the 1824-1825 expedition to the Columbia River. William Hooker, who first decribed the species later worked at the University of Glasgow where Scouler was professor of geology"
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2012, 03:20:55 PM »


I just ordered that book through our Chapter's bulk order.

Am looking forward to it very much.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2012, 02:59:21 AM »

Thanks all! Think it is right then. I don't get seed so I need another clone Wink
It is a very fernyish plant and fits nicely among other woodland plants.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2012, 04:12:19 AM »


I just ordered that book through our Chapter's bulk order.

Am looking forward to it very much.

Picked mine up from a Garden Centre sale table. Cost me £3 (nearly $5) very good value. Grin
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2012, 05:18:39 AM »

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You never lost it David,old habits die hard, eh. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2012, 10:44:37 AM »

A Yorkshireman never looses the habit of finding a bargain Michael Grin
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2012, 11:43:24 AM »

When you speak of it, Michael and David, I think I have a copy of that book too! Have to take a look when I'm back home ;-)
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2012, 07:16:41 PM »

Trond, too bad we don't live near each other or we could exchange pollen of Corydalis scouleri.  I too have only one clone so I never get any viable seed either.  It's native to Oregon but I don't know exactly where it grows.  I guess I should tell my buddies in the Native Plant Society to keep an eye out for it.

And as we both know trying to send you a chunk of my clone, or vice versa, is a non starter.  Cheesy

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 11:25:28 PM »

Sending dried Lilium pollen through the mail is often successful.  I don't know if it would work for Corydalis, but this is what I would do if you want to try:
Remove ripening stamens and dry on paper tin foil for 2 days (3 to 4 days for Lilium spp.).  Fold up tin foil and send.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2012, 01:37:54 PM »


Sending dried Lilium pollen through the mail is often successful.  I don't know if it would work for Corydalis, but this is what I would do if you want to try:
Remove ripening stamens and dry on paper for 2 days (3 to 4 days for Lilium spp.).  Fold up paper and send.
Rick, that is a good idea!

Trond, too bad we don't live near each other or we could exchange pollen of Corydalis scouleri.  I too have only one clone so I never get any viable seed either.  It's native to Oregon but I don't know exactly where it grows.  I guess I should tell my buddies in the Native Plant Society to keep an eye out for it.

And as we both know trying to send you a chunk of my clone, or vice versa, is a non starter.  Cheesy

Jan

Jan, don't remind me of that, I am still depressed Cry

But Rick's idea is a possibility, don't you agree? Or maybe powder in the mail is something some people are very suspicious of?
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2012, 10:43:32 PM »

Hi, Trond,
I can try to harvest pollen when the plants bloom.  I believe you can also freeze lily pollen so I wonder if that would work for corydalis?  I suppose we could try it unless we get lucky and our plants bloom at the same time.  We'd both want to label it carefully due to paranoid plant cops.

I was hoping to find a plant at our Western Winter Study Weekend but I was out of luck.  There are a number of plant sales coming up in the Portland area so I'll be looking for it. I'll also ask my friends who do a lot of hiking to keep a look out for it.  Maybe they can score some fresh seed.

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