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RickR
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Re: Iris 2012
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August 04, 2012, 11:13:40 PM »
That is such a beauty, Dave! One that is really piquing my interest in the last couple years.
I too have noticed the seemingly sparse pollen on several of the small iris species. I have begun to wonder the same thing: if the pollen grains I do see are really clumps of grains, rather than single grains, and the single grains are just extremely tiny.
When I have tried to do what limited hand pollinating I've done with them, success is no better than natural pollination!
On the other hand, maybe I am just clumsy.
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Thanks a lot Rick --so you do see some pollen with the naked eye ?....i saw nothing on my brush but i'll keep on trying anyway.
Cheers Dave.
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Quote from: Toole on August 04, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Thanks a lot Rick --so you do see some pollen with the naked eye ?
Cheers Dave.
It has been my limited experience that these crested species that I have, (I. cristata, lacustrus, minutoaurea) seem to have very little pollen that I can find, but it's not completely absent. I can't say that I've really investigated scientifically, but when I have looked, half of the stamens I pluck have no usable pollen that I can see. The ones that do, just 1-3 grains (or clumps of grains?). I've never checked I. tectororum or I. gracilipes, and my I. koreana and odaesanenesis from seed haven't flowered yet.
I don't have any of the bulbous types more than a year old from seed.
Of the bearded types, I. suaveolens varieties have enough pollen (but not abundant), and I have never investigated my I. lutescens varieties or I. attica.
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Re: Iris 2012
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Was very surprised today to notice that a potful of
Iris odaesanensis
seed sown just about 3 weeks ago showed germination; hard to count accurately from the photo, but with 18 seedlings so far. This is the first time seed of spring woodland Iris has germinated so quickly; typically they wait until the following spring to germinate.
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Maybe sowing in high temperatures (relative to spring) is the trick?
Did you soak them at all prior to sowing?
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Quote from: RickR on August 05, 2012, 09:40:05 PM
Maybe sowing in high temperatures (relative to spring) is the trick?
Did you soak them at all prior to sowing?
No, I did not soak the seed. I'm guessing that prolonged high temperatures, combined with deluge tropical downpours from violent thunderstoms the last couple of weeks, might be responsible for early germination; but just guessing.
By the way, I have found that planting Iris odaesanensis on flat ground produces much better plant growth (perhaps getting more moisture) than planting on slopes. Those that I had planted on a slope had rhizomes that all retreated uphill to reach flat ground, those on the slopes eventually dying out.
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Quote from: RickR on August 05, 2012, 07:45:49 AM
It has been my limited experience that these crested species that I have, (I. cristata, lacustrus, minutoaurea) seem to have very little pollen that I can find, but it's not completely absent. I can't say that I've really investigated scientifically, but when I have looked, half of the stamens I pluck have no usable pollen that I can see. The ones that do, just 1-3 grains (or clumps of grains?). I've never checked I. tectororum or I. gracilipes, and my I. koreana and odaesanenesis from seed haven't flowered yet.
I don't have any of the bulbous types more than a year old from seed.
Of the bearded types, I. suaveolens varieties have enough pollen (but not abundant), and I have never investigated my I. lutescens varieties or I. attica.
Thanks again Rick.
Mark
I had to go and have a look at your photo on the PBS of Iris odaesanensis --what a beauty
Cheers Dave.
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Quote from: Toole on August 01, 2012, 04:21:09 AM
Fermi --i'm not sure if my 'unnamed 'Iris below is I.ret.purple gem ---whatever it is it's such a good 'doer' here --quick to multiply and plenty of blooms.
Cheers Dave.
Hi Dave,
I think there is some confusion between 'Purple Gem' and 'Pauline'!
Here's another pic of 'Harmony' taken a week after the one I posted on August 01
- hard to say if it's spread through the Teucrium subspinosum or vice versa!
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Wow, echoes (or previews?) of spring! Beautiful, Fermi!
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I definitely have to try more of these spring flowering irises!
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You certainly grow 'em well Fermi. Your hot, dry Summers seem to be the key.
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December 13, 2012, 02:23:50 AM »
A couple of Chinese sps out at the moment.
Iris bulleyana is a good 'doer' to about 60cm in height and increases strongly each season.
At the other end of the scale is Iris barbatula --individual blooms are short lived however given some moisture it has repeated.
Cheers Dave.
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Re: Iris 2012
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Here Iris planifolia Pale blue form starts flowering
found by my wife while I was searching for a white form (and didn't find that day)
Roland
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