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« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2012, 08:09:28 AM »

Stephen, you might actually have an Allium stellatum hybrid there, looks similar to a number of Allium stellatum hybrids I have.  It could also be an A. cernuum hybrid, although I would still peg it as an A. stellatum entity.  I find that Allium stellatum will cross with Allium senescens and related species like nutans, resulting in plants with flower heads packed with many more flowers than normal, robust growth with broader foliage, and unusual square (in section) stems, as yours seems to show.
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« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2012, 04:20:12 PM »

here just made one a new flower
but just a single plant
not the row
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« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2012, 05:47:02 AM »

Thanks, Mark, interesting - wonder where this plant originated... I still haven't managed to flower stellatum here so I don't have any experience with it (it's either been wrong or has died although I have a couple which should flower next year).  It's not often grown over here and I've never seen it in botanical gardens. I remember you posted a comparison of stellatum and cernuum. Do you know where that was or, if you have time, just note the most important differences? Is stellatum generally later? The scapes are squarish, yes, more so than cernuum.

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« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2012, 07:34:26 AM »

I have some seeds from the A. cernuum
which I collected at Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump
if one is interested PM me

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« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2012, 08:59:24 AM »

A new onion for me: Allium listera flowers now! (I know you have it Mark!) Sadly the leaves are somewhat damaged - guess by what!


* Allium listera 2012-08-29 1.JPG (228.97 KB, 985x1096 - viewed 24 times.)

* Allium listera 2012-08-29 2.JPG (209.03 KB, 945x1018 - viewed 32 times.)
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« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2012, 02:57:11 PM »

...but I don't have it...nudge, nudge... Smiley
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« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2012, 03:56:24 PM »

I thought I was the only one who didn't had this beauty  Grin

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« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2012, 09:56:01 PM »

A new onion for me: Allium listera flowers now! (I know you have it Mark!) Sadly the leaves are somewhat damaged - guess by what!

Awesome!  Trond, where did you get your seeds or bulbs of this species.  I originally had 3 clones collected by Darrell Probst in China, still have 2 clones, they are markedly different.
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« Reply #83 on: August 30, 2012, 02:34:44 AM »

For those Allium fans on Facebook, I've been putting up Allium pictures mainly from my garden in a special Allium album, now with some 300 or more pictures:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150966880345860.471791.655215859&type=3
(Sorry, not available anywhere else at the moment, it wasn't planned, it just happened)
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« Reply #84 on: August 30, 2012, 10:10:32 AM »

Mark, I bought one bulb from Bjørnar last spring (http://planteliste.net/a-d.html). I had almost forgotten that I had it so I was surprised when I saw the flower stem.

Stephen, I'll collect seed if I get any.
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« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2012, 08:18:21 PM »

Allium flavum:
 

Allium senescens var. glaucum:
 
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« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2012, 08:24:28 PM »

My goodness Lori, your season is so compressed, here Allium flavum and A. senescens var. glaucum flower months apart, Allium flavum in late June to early July, and A. senescens var. glaucum in late August to September. What is the lovely Antennaria foliage that surrounds the Allium senescens var. glaucum plant, assuming it is an antennaria to begin with.
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« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2012, 08:43:17 PM »

It is indeed an antennaria and I wish I could tell you which one with confidence - perhaps A. alpina but I'm not sure.  The flowers are white and on short stalks (3-4") and the leaves are quite rounded, which I'm not sure fits with A. alpina:
   
Not being sure of its identity, unfortunately, I did not collect any seeds from it.   Huh?
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« Reply #88 on: September 29, 2012, 09:40:24 PM »

Plants of Allium aff. thunbergii DJH (Dan J. Hinkley) is in fine flower on this rainy day. I believe this is actually the closely related A. sacculiferum, a species closely related to thunbergii, with more dense heads of bloom, and stamens that aren't as long.  This goes around as Allium thunbergii DJH 272 as well, the DJH referring to Dan J. Hinkley. In the link below are photos from my same plants taken in autumn 2010, these plants not nearly as mature as the ones pictured below.
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5766.msg167658#msg167658
(oh, I just noticed, that the photos I posted on SRGC in 2010, are exactly the same day of the year, Sept 29th! A very consistent plant)

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« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2012, 01:31:44 AM »

Looks fine on a dull day, Mark!
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