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Author Topic: More "scoots".... err, "scutes"?  (Read 2452 times)
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2011, 12:25:28 PM »

Nice plant - I love those yellow scutes.  I wonder if it is really Scutellaria nevadensis though?  As I attempted to find out more about that species, I looked at The Plant List, which says S. nevadensis is a synonym for S. angustifolia ssp. micrantha:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-188906

S. angustifolia ssp. micrantha is one of the North American species with purple-blue flowers and entire leaves:
http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/ShowDBImage/Gallery.aspx?latinName=Scutellaria%20angustifolia%20ssp.%20micrantha&specrep=1&st=0
http://plants.usda.gov/java/largeImage?imageID=scana2_001_avp.tif

If I may suggest it, I think yours, with its yellow flowers and scalloped leaves, is more likely a form of Scutellaria orientalis?
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2011, 03:39:40 PM »

You're right, Lori: clearly, it is not nevadensis/angustifolia ssp. micrantha.  Checking my records, I received it as Scutellaria sevanensis (how did that happen? Grin), and I see the valid name is actually Scutellaria orientalis subsp. sevanensis.  Duly noted, and thanks.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2011, 10:37:12 AM »

I had hoped Scutellaria baicalensis would be a little less gangly in its second year in the garden.  But no. The soil is very well drained, but richer than what might be best, and if it would only stop raining... Yesterday, I received and inch of rain in less than half an hour! But it does have good flower power.

          
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2011, 04:36:47 PM »

Very attractive! 
I think I have figured out what I am growing as "S. baicalensis" (that I showed last year)... possibly either S. zhongdianensis or S. altaica.
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2011, 02:20:18 PM »

Here's what I have as Scuttellaria orientalis photographed last year, maybe it's a variety, can any one help? The other day I bought a plant of S. suffrutescens'Texas Rose' which I have yet to find a place for in the garden (as you do!)

My S orientalis is nothing like as good as it was last year but then I have no real idea how to grow them. I have it in a little rock bed in full sun. Any advice greatly appreciated.



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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2011, 03:23:35 PM »

Hi, David,
Here's a key to S. orientalis that might be helpful.  (I have not pored over it with your plant in mind yet.)
http://vanherbaryum.yyu.edu.tr/flora/famgenustur/la/sc/sa/index.htm

It looks very well grown!  Very nice silvery foliage. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2011, 03:50:57 PM »


Here is a little guy from south eastern Nevada and south western Utah that likes it dry. Scutellaria sapphirina used to be considered as a variety of Scutellaria nana but currently has species designation.
(Seed will be available on the seed exchange.)

http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0903+0731
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=SCSA6


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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2011, 08:10:37 PM »

It (S. sapphirina) travels. But unlike the fairly rampant (and also blue) S. brittonii and S. angustifolia, when it travels, it leaves its original home. So you think your little scutellaria you grew from Archibald seed is dead, and then, lo and behold, it's over there, and what you thought was bindweed was not.
S. pontica does not seem to be reliably perennial but it is, as Pk suggested, reliably ubiquitous. As is S. salviifolia. (100 free plants to the first person who comes over to dig them up. 200 free plants to ther second person.)
I still can't figure out why S. suffrutescens is called the "pink Texas skullcap". It's not from Texas. It's not really pink, either.


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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2011, 06:59:57 AM »

Judging from a couple photos taken in year 2000, I received some scoot-roots from Bob back in 1998, with fair warning they might take over my yard, or possibly the universe, Scutellaria sapphirina and S. angustifolia.  The former only lasted a couple years here, but S. angustifolia quickly escaped its home in a pot by ducking for cover and diving through the drainage holes.  It spread into an area that I use to hold potted plants, romping quietly through the top layer of bark mulch over hardpan subsoil.  Since its time above ground is brief, flowering late May or early June then retreating into dormancy, it has not caused much concern for its spread. In fact, it has only spread a couple meters in each direction, not nearly the threat something like Ajuga poses.  Thanks Bob, I'm always reminded of you when this little plant makes its appearance each spring.

Scutellaria angustifolia, in the first photo, the plant shamelessly making its escape from a pot:
 
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2011, 10:23:08 AM »

Here is the Eastern American version of a dryland Scutellaria.

http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/prairie/plantx/sm_skullcap.htm

I collected seed of S. leonardii this year.  I will be propagating it for ecological restoration.  I expect I will have plenty of seed in two years.  If I can spare any I will send some to the exchange.

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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2011, 10:30:34 AM »

James, good link for Scutellaria parvula missouriensis, I'm not as familiar with the many members of the genus in North America as I should be.  Never heard of Scutellaria leonardii either, nice markings on the flowers, there's seed and a couple photos on the Prairie Moon Nursery site:
http://www.prairiemoon.com/seeds/wildflowers-forbs/scutellaria-leonardii-small-skullcap

Update: I missed the fact that S. leonardii and S. parvula var. leonardii are synonyms of S. parvula var. missouriensis.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=SCPAM
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2011, 11:38:13 AM »

I wouldn't mind having Scutellaria angustifolia (or any other skullcap shown here) as a "weed"!
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