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DesertZone
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Anyone out there with Agave palmeri in colder climates?
Here is a big one near Old Pearce AZ
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Aaron
That is one hell of an agave!
Is it yours?
I grow a palmeri it's no were near as large as the one in your photo. Mine is about five years old and pupping a little. I hear they can go rampant and take over or invade choice neighbors.
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Re: Agave palmeri
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I have grown this one and its one of my favorites. And it doesnt survive here nt even in the unheated greenhouse. Only have moderate succes with havardiana, utahensis types, gracilipes, parryi and a few others. Maybe I should try again again again
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Quote from: Martin Tversted on November 27, 2011, 01:22:39 AM
I have grown this one and its one of my favorites. And it doesnt survive here nt even in the unheated greenhouse. Only have moderate succes with havardiana, utahensis types, gracilipes, parryi and a few others. Maybe I should try again again again
Martin
Hi, what zone are you in? or area?
I would love to try one from higher elev. I have seen them grow at about 7000ft but I can't seem to find any seed. >
Sounds like you are doing good with some others. I have never had any success with havardiana so I bet if a person could find it from higher up I bet they could do well.
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Quote from: Weiser on November 26, 2011, 11:50:15 PM
Aaron
That is one hell of an agave!
Is it yours?
I grow a palmeri it's no were near as large as the one in your photo. Mine is about five years old and pupping a little. I hear they can go rampant and take over or invade choice neighbors.
I wish it was mine, it was on a couple of lots away from mine I don't seem to have any on my place...one right over the fence but...
You say yours is pupping? I dont think I have ever seen them pup in the wild. I have a small high elev. parryi that has a small pup, would you like to make a trade next spring?
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Growing it
for now
, if that counts.....
Bob
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Quote from: DesertZone on November 27, 2011, 09:58:55 AM
[ I have a small high elev. parryi that has a small pup, would you like to make a trade next spring?
Aaron check your Email
The answer is Yes.
Quote from: Nold on November 27, 2011, 10:00:25 AM
Growing it
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Bob
Any thing you grow counts in my book!!
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November 27, 2011, 10:33:15 AM »
Now here is one in a garden in Elfrida AZ that has pups, but I wonder if it is its close cousin Agave chrysantha?
I don't know that much about agave.
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The palmeri I got will soon be that size, no doubt ...
I got mine free, as a trial. I think seed came from the Chiricahuas. Or some place reasonably high. We'll see.
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Quote from: Nold on November 27, 2011, 10:54:16 AM
The palmeri I got will soon be that size, no doubt ...
I got mine free, as a trial. I think seed came from the Chiricahuas. Or some place reasonably high. We'll see.
Bob
Good deal! That is where I seen them at higher up.
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November 27, 2011, 11:16:13 AM »
Hey, anyone out there that wants some dasylirion w. seed I still have some from a plant close to this one.
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The "woody lilies" are all very easy from seed, but getting them from there to the garden and having their little rear ends frozen off is not a happy journey.
I would hold off planting seed grown agaves, yuccas, dasylirions, and nolinas for at least a few years. They all overwinter as house plants very nicely. (This from someone who can barely get a philodendron to grow.)
Another ploy is to spray them with an antidesiccant like Cloud Cover. Yes, coating them with plastic.....
Bob
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Quote from: Weiser on November 27, 2011, 10:17:20 AM
Aaron check your Email
The answer is Yes.
I have recived a great gift! Thanks again John.
I wont forget next spring to send that pup off and anything else you might want?
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My palmeri is under about 5 inches of snow right now. Or it might not be, there's an incense cedar in front of it and maybe the snow didn't land on the agave. I don't feel like going out and looking.
Snow on marginally hardy succulents is a mixed blessing.
Maybe I'll go cover it before it gets completely dark.
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Quote from: Nold on December 03, 2011, 05:53:01 PM
Snow on marginally hardy succulents is a mixed blessing.
Bob
I agree, I have more things die from snow cover than cold. Makes the yuccas, agave, and cactus rot around here.
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