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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2011, 10:12:59 PM »

Boy, that feathery whatever it is at the base of the petals on that cyanthanthus is really cool!

Rick, have you grown either Euonymus planipes or Euonymus sachalinensis?
Mark sent me some E. planipes sachalinensis seedlings last fall. (Thanks, Mark!)  They weathered the winter just fine in pots and in the ground.  (Remember that rabbits love anything euonymus, though.)  I've not grown E. sachalinensis, but E. hamitonianus var. sieboldianus, E. nanus var. turkestanicus, E. bungeana and E. verrucosus all do well here.  I have a friend in zone 3 that grows E. bungeana.  Though all of these a very nice in their own right, none are like planipes or sachalinensis, in my opinion.
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« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2011, 10:36:04 PM »

Boy, that feathery whatever it is at the base of the petals on that cyanthanthus is really cool!
I think a comparison to this photo from mid-July confirms that that what we are seeing there are indeed... pardon the scientific terminology... what I refer to as "fuzzy bits".  Grin Grin


Thanks for the info on the Euonymus... awaiting updates through time!
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« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2011, 10:49:49 PM »

Mark sent me some E. planipes seedlings last fall. (Thanks, Mark!)  They weathered the winter just fine in pots and in the ground.  (Remember that rabbits love anything euonymus, though.)  I've not grown E. sachalinensis, but E. hamitonianus var. sieboldianus, E. nanus var. turkestanicus, E. bungeana and E. verrucosus all do well here.  I have a friend in zone 3 that grows E. bungeana.  Though all of these a very nice in their own right, none are like planipes or sachalinensis, in my opinion.

I do not have E. planipes; Rick, what I sent you was E. sachalinensis.
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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2011, 10:12:30 AM »


Oops!  I guess I might have discovered my naming error many years from now....
Thanks again, Mark.
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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2011, 08:23:36 PM »

 Smiley  Thank you for all the great ideas in this discussion.
I can now make a list of plants to look for next season.
And I will need to think through the idea of early bloomers in warmer climes as later bloomers here.
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2011, 02:38:03 AM »

I also occasionally see a late flowering Pulsatilla in my damp climate.

Re-Patrinias: Having discovered that these are/were commonly wild foraged food plants in Japan and elsewhere in the far east, I've been eagerly trying to make a collection, although they aren't that easy to get hold of. Most successful so far has been this one which I received as Patrinia triloba but I believe it's P. gibbosa (a small plant). P. scabiosifolia seems to have died on me, but P. triloba v. takeucheuma survived the last very hard winter here as small plants, so there's hope. I would be very pleased if anyone can offer seed of other Patrinias....

The P. gibbosa flowers late July early August here.


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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2011, 09:55:58 AM »

How very timely, Stephen: just yesterday I was going through the "P" section of leftover seeds from the 2010-2011 Nargs seed ex that our Chapter received.  There is a packet of Patrinia scabiosifolia.  Would you like it?

By the way, there are always really good seed selections in the leftover packets of past seed exchanges.  If your chapter doesn't elect to receive a bunch of them, you are missing out!
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2011, 10:09:08 AM »

I have Patrinia ruprestris, and typically get seeds on it, I'll be on the look out for seed for you.
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2011, 10:43:54 AM »

Thank you both and a yes please, but no hurry!
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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2011, 07:40:57 AM »

it is very common here that early spring flowering plants have an autumn flowering period too.
Interesting... and enviable.  I was going to attribute the general absence of such behavior here (or, at least, in my yard) to a very short season, but I guess you have a darned short season too.   Maybe the difference is related to climate then?  The end of our season is certainly very final, when everything is frozen off.


A short season? It depends on the weather Grin

Usually the first flowers emerge February and the last ones in December .. .. .. Except the last two years when we had rather cold winters (mid November to mid February).

It is too late for seeds of E planipes, Lori, but I can save some next fall if you want.

By the way, here are some blooming now: Phygelius capesis blooms the whole summer and autumn too while Clematis heracleifolia starts blooming in September and keep going for a moth or two.

      


The Anemone is a common fall flowering one but the Impatiens is an annual similar to I balsamina but more compact (1m) and branched (it is weedy though!) The Daphne is from seed and unknown (it is not what the label said).  However it flowers sparingly all summer and autumn.

   
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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2011, 01:33:38 PM »

Phuopsis stylosa still stays put.


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« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2011, 02:22:51 PM »

Trond, nice pics of late blooming stuff; I've always admired Phygelius capesis but don't believe it is hardy here.  Clematis heracleifolia is attractive and looks like something to add to my list.  Good photo of Phuopsis, a genus name that I like saying aloud Cheesy  My phone-camera takes terrible photos in the rain, and its supposed to rain for the next 4 days, so might not get many photogenic scenes to add here.  With all of the rain, I saw a slug today Wink

The native asters are in full force (and I still call them Aster instead of Symphyotrichum), in the following view of a weedy strip in front of a stone wall along the street, is Aster pilosus (the main white-flowered aster), and on the left is Aster ericoides (denser clusters of tiny white flowers arranged in spires), and blue Aster laevis.  All are native here.




Aster laevis is one of the better larger-flowered purple-blue asters; a fairly tall grower it often reclines and with smaller lateral branches gives the illusion of being a smaller growing species. One of the first and last to bloom, with an extended blue time.  They contrast nicely with the brilliant red of Virginia Creeper (Parthenocissus quinquefolia) which turns color early.




Two views of Aster linariifolius (Ionactis linariifolius), which is seeding around a bit too much, but I do love this species with low twiggy stems, bright green bristly needle-like foliage, and typically light powder blue flowers, but I also have lots of white flowered ones, descendants of white forms I found growing at the town dump many years ago.

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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2011, 04:02:42 PM »

I have a love/hate relationship with Hemerocallis.  I dislike many of the overbred cultivars one sees today, with thick lemon-peel petals that are ultra ruffled and heavily frilled, many with gross early-senescent course foliage.  There are of course exceptions; here's one called Hemerocallis 'Autumn Prince' with narrow basal foliage, and a long slender stem and a few small, simple, yellow trumpets, elegant in its simplicity and certainly welcome for its Sept-October bloom period.


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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2011, 06:48:27 PM »

All the rain seems to be putting the garden to bed exceptionally early this year.  There are daphnes reblooming, but that's not that unusual.  After the heat and drought, the excessive rain has forced a lot of plants into growth - hopefully they'll have a chance to harden off before winter.


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« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2011, 09:39:40 PM »

And I just got online to post a pic of C. weyrichii !

Not a nice specimen like yours, though, Ann.  No, this pic is to show the tenacity of the species.  I rooted some cuttings of C. weyrichii 'Pink Bomb' back in 2009 in a mix of 3/4 perlite, 1/4 peat.  Some I grew on, but these were left in the original rooting pot.  They have been sitting forgotten in my menagerie of potted plants,in the shade of a Dwarf ninebark.

And even then, they still put on happy faces outside my kitchen window.

               
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