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Peter George
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Daphne, Stellera and other Thymelaeaceae
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July 04, 2011, 08:26:27 AM »
I have a 2 inch seedling of
Stellera chamaejasme
, growing well in it's own pot. What shall I do with it? One of the suggestions I've had is to winter it over and then plant it out next spring, and someone else told me to plant it out in the early fall. It's taken two years to get one seedling to germinate, survive and grow, and I hate to think I'd kill it before it had a real chance. It's one of the plants that I've had on my 'want' list for years, so help me out, please.
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Peter George, Petersham, MA (north central MA, close to the NH/VT borders), zones 5b and 6 around the property.
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July 05, 2011, 04:28:47 AM »
Peter,
I had two of these seedlings growing a couple of years ago, planted one in the rock garden, did not survive the winter, the other in a lean border, my wife thought she would help with the weeding and it disappeared-I guess not much help!
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Harold Peachey
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Tim Ingram
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We are very lucky in the UK to have Blackthorn Nursery and Robin White's great skills at propagating and distributing daphnes (along with a whole lot of other plants!). The most exciting in our garden, because it is flowering for the first time and is often regarded as temperamental, is
D. glomerata
. This is from Turkey and the Caucasus growing in damp mountain meadows with cold snowy winters (which it doesn't really get with us!). I have it on the cool and moist side of a greenhouse, still with good light and in heavy loam. I normally prop a frame light over it during winter, but didn't this year. I hope it will carry on giving a show like this, on a compact neat bush.
Daphne
x
hendersonii
'Blackthorn Rose' by contrast grows in deep sharp sand and has made a superb free flowering small shrub (again protected in winter from excess rains).
Finally probably the very best spring flowering daphne in the garden -
D. retusa
. This makes a beautifully neat and reliable shrub with large and strongly scented flowers and has maintained itself in the garden by self-sowing over more than 30 years! What more can one ask?
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Dr. Timothy John Ingram
Copton Ash, Faversham, Kent, ME13 8XW, UK
I garden in a relatively hot and dry region (for the UK!), with an annual rainfall of around 25", winter lows of -10°C and summer highs of 30°C.
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May 14, 2012, 01:38:01 AM »
Beautiful, Tim! I am jealous
Do they all have scent or just
retusa
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Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
Tim Ingram
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May 14, 2012, 02:22:08 AM »
Thanks Trond!
Daphne retusa
is definitely the best scent-wise and I think should be in every garden!
D. glomerata
has an odd, slightly offputting scent (which Robin White comments on in his book), but only when you get up close! The best daphne of all in my opinion is the winter flowering
odora
; the scent can fill the garden!
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Dr. Timothy John Ingram
Copton Ash, Faversham, Kent, ME13 8XW, UK
I garden in a relatively hot and dry region (for the UK!), with an annual rainfall of around 25", winter lows of -10°C and summer highs of 30°C.
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coptonash@yahoo.co.uk
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I have tried some Daphne during the years and some do well here. However the very cold previous winters killed a lot. I have to start again. The problem is getting hold of them here, only some common species are well, common. It is easier to get seed than plants!
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Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
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Daphne mezereum forma alba.
Cheers Dave.
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1100mm,(40 in),rainfall p.a.
Nil snow cover
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Daphne x rollsdorfii close up --wonderful scent.
Cheers Dave.
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Daphne arbuscula. Flowering today.
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Tim, to the best of my knowledge, Daphne 'Blackthorn Rose' has never been available here. On the pre-Nottingham Conference tour, we visited Robin White's garden, probably the highlight of the tour for me, although all the gardens were superb. He had some of his cultivars for sale, but unfortunately I was unable to buy anything because the Conference did not provide a phyto-inspector. It was really a crushing disappointment since I came with all the paperwork for bringing plants into the U.S. His daphnes were so wonderful and you're so lucky to be able to buy them. I have no idea if "Blackthorn Rose ' would be hardy here. Do you know the parentage of this one?
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