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Lori S.
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Penstemon season is starting up here...
I think this is
Penstemon davidsonii
. Can anyone confirm that? (If not... arrghh, more keying out to do!)
The beautiful blue of
Penstemon cyananthus
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Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm
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I have P. davidsonii...the flowers and foliage are quite different...glossier and more narrow foliage. the foliage on yours looks like P. fruticosus.
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Todd Boland
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June 27, 2011, 10:46:27 PM »
Thanks, Todd. I'll pull out the key and check it out further... I'd better get a move on before the bloom ends.
Penstemon procerus
, a local wild form with much narrower leaves than some of the commercially-distributed forms:
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PEPR2&photoID=pepr2_002_avp.jpg
(Wow, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the first photo at USDA Plants is grossly misidentified!)
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?where-genre=Plant&where-taxon=Penstemon+procerus
Penstemon secundiflorus
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http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PESE11
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?stat=BROWSE&query_src=photos_flora_sci&where-genre=Plant&where-taxon=Penstemon+secundiflorus&title_tag=Penstemon+secundiflorus
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June 28, 2011, 12:55:21 AM »
Nice Penstemons! I have planted some seedlings of Penstemon, from seed this spring, but they all look the same except one despite I got several kind of seed in the seedex!
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Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
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Misidentified Penstemon seed in the various seed exchanges is a problem. Fortunately, there are always good people on these forums to help ID them, or at least know it is not what it is labeled. I picked up this seedling grown by a Chapter member as Penstemon procerus. I snatched it up, but I don't think it looks like procerus...
Penstemon procerus seedlgnot28jun11 P1110855.JPG
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June 28, 2011, 11:29:11 PM »
Gee, I don't think so either!
Here's
Penstemon confertus
, another native plant:
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Quote from: RickR on June 28, 2011, 10:11:01 AM
Misidentified Penstemon seed in the various seed exchanges is a problem. Fortunately, there are always good people on these forums to help ID them, or at least know it is not what it is labeled.
Quite. Honestly I am not very beset of names but hope they are nice-looking and blue
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Penstemon speciosus var. kennedyi:
Penstemon whippleanus
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Penstemon
utahensis
alamosensis
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Penstemon lyallii
(from mid-July):
A hybrid(?) that puts on a great display and show of varying colour throughout the yard:
Penstemon barbatus
'Coccineus'... these used to grow these a lot better than this. Oh well.
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That Penstemon speciosus v kennedyi is a really lovely plant, Lori. Do you recall where you got the seed? Yours looks like the true plant.
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I bought it years ago, probably from Beaver Creek (or whoever it was that supplied a local greenhouse with alpines).
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Lori
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December 10, 2011, 01:12:48 AM »
This is
Penstemon hirsutus
(or at least that's the name I bought it under), growing in a deep raised bed in full sun. Top notch plant for the garden, covering itself in flowers for about 3 weeks in early summer, spreading gently but never becoming a thug, and needing no attention except a haircut after flowering.
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Doreen Mear
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Continental climate, rare snow cover,
670 mm rain p.a.
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December 10, 2011, 01:15:19 AM »
Welcome, Doreen! It definitely looks like
P. hirsutus
, with its pinched-shut mouth.
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Lori
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December 10, 2011, 07:55:12 AM »
Hello Doreen, a belated welcome to the NARGS Forum from me as well. A fine looking Penstemon hirsutus there! Your plant, being so short and floriferous, corresponds to what was known as P. hirsutus var. pygmaeus (and var. minimus), but neither variety is officially recognized. The dwarf forms of hirsutus go around as P. hirsutus pygmaeus or 'Pygmaeus', although technically incorrect, such names are horticulturally useful to differentiate dwarf forms from the regular tall forms (typically about 2' or 60 cm tall).
In seed exchanges penstemons are often misidentified, with P. hirsutus commonly sent out as other species.
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Mark McDonough
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Re: Penstemons 2011
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December 10, 2011, 10:12:47 PM »
Lori and Mark: Thank you both for the welcome, for confirming the i.d. and the additional info, thus saving me struggling to check it out myself!
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Doreen Mear
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