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Lori S.
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Seedling ID?
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March 27, 2011, 06:12:12 PM »
These popped up in a pot seeded with
Campanula
. Does anyone recognize them? They look sort of
Saponaria
-ish to me, though that's probably wishful thinking. They don't resemble anything else that I'm growing this year. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
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Lori
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March 28, 2011, 07:27:31 AM »
Do they have milky sap? My first thought was some Euphorbia but they often form an elongated epicotyl.
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March 28, 2011, 11:48:04 AM »
Maybe this is way off base, but they remind me of Silene seedlings.
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Re: Seedling ID?
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Quote from: Lis Allison on March 28, 2011, 11:48:04 AM
Maybe this is way off base, but they remind me of Silene seedlings.
I agree Lis, at first I though it might be Silene armeria, but after checking photos, I decided that I wasn't sure enough to commit to that suggestion.
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Mark McDonough
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Quote from: McDonough on March 28, 2011, 12:46:47 PM
I agree Lis, at first I though it might be Silene armeria, but after checking photos, I decided that I wasn't sure enough to commit to that suggestion.
You notice my comment was pretty weasily......
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March 29, 2011, 08:48:12 PM »
Okay, I nipped off a leaf and there is no milky sap, and no particular odour to the leaves.
There is a
suggestion
of opposite-leaf arrangement to them (though they both remain rosette-like for now).
Lis and Mark, you may well be on the right track. Lesley over at the SRGC site suggested
Lychnis
so that's 3 votes for
Silene/Lychnis
... I was thinking
Caryophyllaceae
as well (though with hopes of
Saponaria
for whatever reason.
)
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Re: Seedling ID?
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March 30, 2011, 05:10:16 AM »
Quote from: Skulski on March 29, 2011, 08:48:12 PM
Lis and Mark, you may well be on the right track. Lesley over at the SRGC site suggested
Lychnis
so that's 3 votes for
Silene/Lychnis
... I was thinking
Caryophyllaceae
as well (though with hopes of
Saponaria
for whatever reason.
)
Actually, my first thought was Dianthus armeria, then I saw Mark's suggestion of Silene armeria!! Didn't find any pictures though....
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Quote from: Stephenb on March 30, 2011, 05:10:16 AM
Actually, my first thought was Dianthus armeria, then I saw Mark's suggestion of Silene armeria!! Didn't find any pictures though....
I wonder if there is an
Armeria dianthus
?
Close enough:
http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=686280-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditAdvPlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_infragenus%3D%26find_isAPNIRecord%3Dtrue%26find_geoUnit%3D%26find_includePublicationAuthors%3Dtrue%26find_addedSince%3D%26find_family%3D%26find_genus%3DArmeria%26find_sortByFamily%3Dtrue%26find_isGCIRecord%3Dtrue%26find_infrafamily%3D%26find_rankToReturn%3Dall%26find_publicationTitle%3D%26find_authorAbbrev%3D%26find_infraspecies%3D%26find_includeBasionymAuthors%3Dtrue%26find_modifiedSince%3D%26find_isIKRecord%3Dtrue%26find_species%3D*%26output_format%3Dnormal
Some images of
Silene armeria
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tico_bassie/5149028861/
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Silene_armeria_1.jpg
...scroll down to see more photos of foliage:
http://www.thegardenhelper.com/cgi-bin/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=69;t=000585;p=0
The unknown seedling also has a
Cheiranthus
look about it:
http://www.dkimages.com/discover/Home/Plants/Wild-Flowers/Dicotyledons/Brassicaceae-Cruciferae/Cheiranthus/Cheiranthus-cheiri/Cheiranthus-cheiri-2.html
http://chestofbooks.com/gardening-horticulture/Hardy-Trees-Shrubs-And-Herbaceous-Plants/images/Fig-33-Cheiranthus-Cheiri-1-4-nat-size.jpg
Stephen, I like your new moniker; extreme salad man
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Mark McDonough
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March 30, 2011, 09:26:23 PM »
Well, it certainly does look like the photos of
Silene armeria
! I'll try to remember to report back on what it eventually reveals itself to be.
Thanks, everyone, and great sleuthing, Mark!
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Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
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