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Hoy
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Re: Allium 2011
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Reply #15 on:
March 29, 2011, 04:02:20 PM »
Quote from: Skulski on March 27, 2011, 06:07:15 PM
The birchbark makes a nice background to the photo, Mark!
Don't you have a word for birchbark? In Norwegian it is called "never"
and was used for many things, roofs, cups, boxes etc.
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March 29, 2011, 04:05:51 PM »
Stephen it is not you first but second post! And I knew you eat such green stuff
I do it myself; every year I get a present from a lady I know and that is
Allium ursinum
butter!
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Re: Allium 2011
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March 29, 2011, 04:49:51 PM »
Quote from: Stephenb on March 29, 2011, 11:27:11 AM
The salad (you did ask!): one of my less diverse efforts with a mere 77 varieties (and 61 species).
An epicurean's delight!
And not boring at all!
(I wonder if Wim's R. ficaria 'Salad Bowl' - wait, just read your other post: not the flowers!)
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Re: Allium 2011
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March 30, 2011, 02:24:38 AM »
Quote from: Hoy on March 29, 2011, 04:02:20 PM
Quote from: Skulski on March 27, 2011, 06:07:15 PM
The birchbark makes a nice background to the photo, Mark!
Don't you have a word for birchbark? In Norwegian it is called "never"
and was used for many things, roofs, cups, boxes etc.
...don't forget it was used for bread (the inner bark at least)
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Stephen Barstow
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Re: Allium 2011
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April 10, 2011, 03:00:13 PM »
The allium season has started with a few species from the acanthoprason section:
Allium breviscapum
Allium haemanthoides
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Re: Allium 2011
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April 10, 2011, 03:03:11 PM »
Mark, you know I have now and then an allium species without ID.
What do you think of this one ?
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Re: Allium 2011
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April 11, 2011, 12:20:45 PM »
Another one is the Iranian Allium elburzense. These are seed-raised why a little variation in colour is possible.
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April 11, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »
Allium noeanum, another Iranian species.
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Re: Allium 2011
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April 11, 2011, 08:05:04 PM »
Luc, all those onions are fantastic, pure alliaceous delight!
I'm always amazed by how many desirable Central Asian species there are, but so darned few in general cultivation. I wonder why that is? Do these make viable seed for you? Your first photo of the potful of
A. elburzense
shows more than just a little variation, a most educational look at just how variable plants can be from a seed lot... I like em all. Before you followed with photos of
A. elburzense
, I was going to suggest that your unknown Allium from
Ahar-Tabriz
(Iran) looks like
A. elburzense
, in fact, I still think so.
The long narrow-tepaled
A. breviscapum
and wide-headed
A. noeanum
are also rock garden gems, thanks for potraying these beauties with such fine photos.
I sowed a bunch of Allium seed last year and the year before, directly out in the garden in marked locations, of various Pilous seed and some K.Vickery seed. Checking them this past weekend, most show germination and a few showing small 2nd year leaves. Also in summer of 2010, I received seed of dozens of Allium species from Kazakhstan; many are showing strong germination this past weekend as well. I plan on showing photos in 5-6 years
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April 18, 2011, 12:00:59 AM »
A miscellany of Alliums come to mind as the season starts up.
Allium victorialis
is surging into growth. I grow three forms, an unnamed type, and two cultivars,
A. victorialis 'Cantabria'
(upright growing but more slender and smaller growing than the next) and
A. victorialis 'Kemerovo'
with is a large-growing upright form with beautiful fresh pleated leaves in spring.
A. victorialis 'Cantabria'
left,
'Kemerovo'
on the right.
A. victorialis
- closeup views showing the burlap-like reticulated bulb coats; the bulbs sitting at and above the soil level.
A. victorialis 'Kemerovo'
- lush foliage emergence
Allium nutans - variegated
. I received seedlings from Jim Jones in my hometown of Lexington Massachusetts, of a variegated form of
Allium nutans
. The seedlings varied from all green, to those showing some variegation, to one that was strongly white-leaved with green stripes. The latter eventually died, but here's a view of a strong growing one that shows some good variegation. The flowers are pale lilac and not so good, a work in progress.
Allium schoenoprasum 'Curly Mauve'
is one of my selections; I really like the strongly prostrate curling spring growth. On the right you can see a seedling plant that is larger in growth... tending towards the same prostrate foliage emergence.
Allium species received as
A. altissimum
from Arnis Seisums, E Kopet-Dag, Turkmenistan, the giant of the genus growing to 5-1/2' tall. Dr. Reinhard Fritsch believes it is actually
A. stipitatum
. Either way, it is a highly ornamental tall allium that is a good doer in the garden, the photo showing that the bulbs split and increase; I really should dig it up and separate the bulbs this summer. I like the look of the emerging shoots.
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Re: Allium 2011
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April 19, 2011, 08:02:00 AM »
Just like to say that that I really enjoyed your NARGS article, Mark ....bedtime reading the last few nights! Particularly like Green Eyes and Wall of Pink....just wish they were available over here... Same applies to Curly Mauve (above). Victorialis is also a favourite and I'll post something about that one soon myself. If you ever get seed off that variegated nutans, would love to try it...
Here's one of my spring favourites, Asian Allium carolinianum photographed a couple of days ago:
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Stephen Barstow
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Re: Allium 2011
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Mark
How many species of allium do you grow? The list seems endless.
I'll have to think twice, before asking how many varieties and hybrids there are.
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Re: Allium 2011
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Quote from: McDonough on April 18, 2011, 12:00:59 AM
A. victorialis 'Cantabria'
left,
'Kemerovo'
on the right.
*INCORRECT USE OF [attachthumb=#]. You need to specify the attachment number, for example [attachthumb=1].
Are your Cantabria and Kemerovo reversed? The picture further down should be Kemerovo if it's right?
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Re: Allium 2011
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Thought I'd show you my Victory Onions as they are today. I have about 10 different accessions, but most are still small. Here's a picture of each of the ones that are a decent size:
1) Received as var platyphyllum (from Japan) - very early and much further advanced than the other two.
2) Allium ochotense (synonym) also from Asia
3) Allium victorialis (Norwegian naturalised population from the Lofoten Islands)
I've notice also that an accession from Kola (NW Arctic Russia) is also way ahead of the others.
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Re: Allium 2011
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April 22, 2011, 11:46:14 AM »
Two more alliums from Iran:
Allium colchicifolium
Allium materculae ssp. materculae var. albiflorum
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