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« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2011, 01:41:35 PM »

O. fragilis with winter burn.

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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2011, 09:39:04 PM »

WOW what a great mound!! Shocked
Is this from a locally collected clone?

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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2011, 04:47:14 AM »

I've just seen this very interesting thread. I managed to overwinter a small seed propagated plant of O. fragilis for two winters here at over 64N (min. temperature, without snowcover of about -23C) but it sadly didn't make it through last winter.

In Scandinavia, I've seen good collections of Opuntias in the rock garden at the Gøteborg (Gothenburg) botanics and they also grow several in the Tromsø botanical gardens (69.6N) where I've even seen an unknown species with flower buds.
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2011, 08:19:06 AM »

WOW what a great mound!! Shocked
Is this from a locally collected clone?


Thanks!
It came from a local nursery.  Last winter was the first winter I ever seen it burn.  We had very cold weather very early. >Sad
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2011, 08:20:59 AM »

I've just seen this very interesting thread. I managed to overwinter a small seed propagated plant of O. fragilis for two winters here at over 64N (min. temperature, without snowcover of about -23C) but it sadly didn't make it through last winter.

In Scandinavia, I've seen good collections of Opuntias in the rock garden at the Gøteborg (Gothenburg) botanics and they also grow several in the Tromsø botanical gardens (69.6N) where I've even seen an unknown species with flower buds.

Would love to see some pics. Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 01:33:27 PM »

Of course any plant can be damaged in a given year, even in nature, so you can't say too much from one plant, but, O fragilis does occur in at least z2 areas in nature, so its not cold per se that can cause problems, and it is said to be even quite tolerant of winter wet.. drainage is really crucial of course, for winter (for really wet winters, I think both extra draining soil and a bit of a slope would be best) , but I think damage can occur also when cold temperatures come hard on the heels of warm weather, and plants have not hardened yet.. we've had a couple of falls like this --warm and wet weather followed by cold, and some little bits of Alberta fragilis I have have not been looking great..
Another factor for hardy cacti (less important I think for the northern Opuntias than Echinocereus etc, but still relevant, I suspect) more important for Stephen and I than for DesertZone, is summer heat--the plants need a good warm/hot growing season to really be in shape for winter.. i think a planting built to maximise heat during summer would be helpful (stones that hold heat, going below soil level as well, and some sort of partial wall/raised area around it to hold heat, or pots/plantings in semi-enclosed areas in courtyards, near walls etc)..
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2011, 01:46:56 PM »

but I think damage can occur also when cold temperatures come hard on the heels of warm weather, and plants have not hardened yet.. we've had a couple of falls like this --warm and wet weather followed by cold,
Bingo...this is what did so much of my plants in last year, not so much the cold winter but the warm and early cold of fall.  Half my flowers were in bloom and then two cold snaps near 0F Shocked
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2011, 04:20:11 PM »

We had an especially bad bout of that year before last-- extra warm later than usual in late aug and through sept, then in early oct, snow and freezing for a week, down to -20C.. even native trees were thrown for a loop--they had not dropped leaves, and the leaves froze in place, stayed for weeks, all winter on some things... some very hardy perennials were affected, though most things recovered..
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2011, 11:12:44 PM »

I had flower that stayed all winter becuase of the freeze. Cheesy
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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2011, 07:08:57 PM »

I wonder if we are headed for that sort of a fall/winter again-- after another cold wet day tomorrow (yesterday drizzle all day and a high of 8C), we are forecast a stretch of warm sunny weather (up to mid-20'sC which is just about as warm as it has been all summer)..
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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2012, 09:31:30 PM »

Gosh, I wish I would have seen these in bloom.  I have never even seen a O. fragilis with any buds or flowers in Minnesota before.  These are near Granite Falls, Minnesota.  They're not exactly the easiest to access...

          

               
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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2012, 11:50:17 PM »

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I hope a few pads stuck to you pant legs. Wink
Boy those outcroppings are covered in them!!
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2012, 10:59:28 PM »

Rick
I hope a few pads stuck to you pant legs. Wink
Boy those outcroppings are covered in them!!

Well, my aversion to the cactus with "jumping" Wink glochides may be set aside for this one, at least until I can get it to bloom and evaluate it.  It won't be a space hog like the larger opuntias.  There was an old piece of rotting wood there and I used it to reach out and touch some of the pads.  the barbed thorns did their job, attached themselves to it, and I retrieved a few pads.  That leaves two up for grabs...
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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2012, 08:35:28 PM »

Just a little tip.
Be sure and plant it were it doesn't get bumped around. They will only produce flowers after they chain/stack two or three pads high. So getting bumped around really delays the process.
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« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2012, 06:29:26 AM »

Had been exciting to be stung by a cactus Wink ...in the wild, I mean. Although roses are beautiful they're not as interesting as cacti though!

Rick, the other plant in your picture - is it a grass?
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