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« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2010, 06:34:01 PM »

The pic is of E. verrucosus in a pot.  I would have planted it out in the yard last fall or spring, but a rabbit ate it down to a nub last September.  It had two unripe capsules at the time. I am sure they were very yummy, as were the Styrax americanus seedlings grown from the disjunct population in Illinois.  Out of my hundreds of pots, those were the only two the rabbit ate. Embarrassed  I guess I should be happy that was all he ate!

Anyway, both have rebounded nicely, and E. verrucosus will find itself in a landscape berm next year.  So I expect flowers (and seed) next year, and I'll keep you in mind, Trond.
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« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2010, 06:39:09 PM »

Anyway, both have rebounded nicely, and Euonymus verrucosus will find itself in a landscape berm next year.  So I expect flowers (and seed) next year, and I'll keep you in mind, Trond.

Me too please.  Looks like I'll have a bumper crop on Euonymus sachalinensis, let me know if anybody wants some.
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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2010, 08:19:17 PM »

Get ready for retina burn with Zauschneria garrettii (or Epilobium canum ssp. garrettii as now known)...  
Most years, it makes a "smattering" of those lovely red-orange trumpets, but this year, perhaps due to the long sizzling dry summer, it looks to be a banner year for bloom.
It's definitely not a banner year for it here, with so little warmth!  Looks like I'll only get a very small smattering of bloom.  (On the other hand, at least it's blooming, while so many other perennials chose not to bloom at all this summer.)  It is usually a very good late-bloomer here, going well into October, weather permitting.

The second photo shows the allegiance to Epilobium quite clearly.


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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2010, 10:28:20 PM »


E. sachalinensis is synonymous with E. planipes. It is a common garden shrub here although I don't grow it but E. europæus.

E. europæus selfsow a little and I have to remove seedlings every spring.


Trond, I missed commenting on Euonymus europaeus... that's quite a display of seed capsules.  In a way, it is better than E. sachalinensis in that it displays the fruit without leaves apparently, so more of an impact, whereas in E. sachalinensis the "fruits" can be partially obscured by the foliage.

Now, checking into the issue of E. sachalinensis being a synonym for E. planipes, I believe the situation is a little different.  Some sites suggest that plants in Horticulture are in reality E. planipes, and that the true E. sachalinensis is not in cultivation, or rarely so.... most plants actually being E. planipes. However, both planipes and sachalinensis are valid species.  The following site says that E. planipes has green flowers, whereas true sachalinensis has brown flowers, so it looks like I have E. planipes if this is true.
http://www.rogerstreesandshrubs.com/gallery/DisplayBlock~bid~9980~gid~~source~gallerydefault.asp

This site says E. sachalinensis has green flowers, mentions E. planipes, but doesn't address the nomenclature or identification issue.
http://en.sl.life.ku.dk/faciliteter/arboretet/maanedensplante/2004/oktober.aspx

And then some sites put it the other way around, E. sachalinensis (syn. E. planipes), and yet other sites say about E. planipes: possibly not distinct from E. sachalinensis?  So which is it?

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More googling, and one can read the species descriptions of E. sachalinensis and nanus in this Flora of China PDF on the genus Euonymus.  E. sachalinensis does have reddish to purple or brown flowers, so my plant can't be sachalinensis, and E. nanus has whitish-green flowers... so my plant that had red flowers was also misidentified.  In Flora of Japan, E. planipes is described as havingflowers that are white to pale green... my plant is most likely E. planipes.
http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china/PDF/PDF11/Euonymus.pdf
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« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2010, 06:27:09 AM »

Mark, some want to split and some want to merge species! That's normal. I cited RHS's Encyclopedia.
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« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2010, 06:31:20 AM »

It's definitely not a banner year for it here, with so little warmth!  Looks like I'll only get a very small smattering of bloom.  (On the other hand, at least it's blooming, while so many other perennials chose not to bloom at all this summer.)  It is usually a very good late-bloomer here, going well into October, weather permitting.

The second photo shows the allegiance to Epilobium quite clearly.
You are luckier than me though, Lori. I have never succeeded with  Zauschneria regardless its name.
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« Reply #51 on: September 13, 2010, 11:05:17 AM »

You're on the list too, Mark, for verrucosus.  If all goes well, I think it might be easier for you to root cuttings next summer.  That's how I propagated mine.  Likewise, I thought it might be easier for me to root cuttings of planipes, but Dirr only lists propagation from seed for sacalinensis so I'll stick with that for now.  Yes, I'd like to try some seed, with a few different methods of preparation.  Euonymus seed have a very oily coating, and some sources recommend washing in diluted soap first, although Dirr does not mention it.
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« Reply #52 on: September 13, 2010, 03:22:41 PM »

You're on the list too, Mark, for verrucosus.  If all goes well, I think it might be easier for you to root cuttings next summer.  That's how I propagated mine.  Likewise, I thought it might be easier for me to root cuttings of planipes, but Dirr only lists propagation from seed for sacalinensis so I'll stick with that for now.  Yes, I'd like to try some seed, with a few different methods of preparation.  Euonymus seed have a very oily coating, and some sources recommend washing in diluted soap first, although Dirr does not mention it.
I'll get plenty of seeds later on europæus, if it is of interest. They germinate easily under the mother plant every year. However, I do not know if the seeds are 1, 2 or more years old when they decide to germinate.
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« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2010, 06:17:49 PM »

Looks like I'll have a bumper crop on Euonymus sachalinensis, let me know if anybody wants some.
Mark,
just as well it's also known as E. planipes as it's allowed into Oz under that name! (Yes, please!)

I took these pics before the sun came out so the flowers aren't open fully but quite obvious red! Anemone pavonina - even the white ones have red exteriors. Cheesy

And Tulipa greigii (possibly "Red Riding Hood") is certainly bright in the spring garden.

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« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2010, 06:35:05 PM »

A little red darling!
Does it open wide, or stay fairly closed?
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« Reply #55 on: September 14, 2010, 06:51:48 PM »

A little red darling!
Does it open wide, or stay fairly closed?

Hi Rick,
if you mean the anemone, yes it does, but only in full sun and not at 7am!
Actually, the tulip does the same, too!
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« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2010, 06:04:53 PM »

A little red darling!
Does it open wide, or stay fairly closed?
Taken at 8am this morning,
Tulipa greigii and Anemone pavonina,
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« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2010, 11:55:51 PM »

Nice to see spring plants at this time of the year - the rain is pouring down outside!
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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2010, 11:38:13 PM »

Here, pushing things right to the limit, is Ipomopsis rubra... In a few fitful previous tries, I was never able to winter it over, but now finally, success...  However, this bit of bloom is all I'll get, since it's getting very late, and this biennial will definitely not be able to set seed before it's killed by the cold.  (Grrr, I remember again why I hate biennials!  :Smiley)

The second photo does shows the frost-bitten flowers looking very red...


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« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2010, 02:09:33 AM »

Ipomopsis is a genus that I have not considered trying, but I think I will now!
What's the trouble wintering it over - frost, humidity, lack of warm summers?
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