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Hoy
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Re: Erythronium in 2010
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Quote from: IMYoung on May 05, 2010, 06:53:01 AM
I don't regard the timing as being particularly late, since Trond is in Norway.... I'd incline towards E. revolutum .... that bud promises "pink" to me!
Pink to me too! I'll show you when the flowers open but things go extremely slowly here now. Think the spring will last to fall.
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Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
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My slugs devouring all the nicest plants let the Erythroniums alone. I have some plants but try to increase the stock every year. This one is started from seed - should be E. sibiricum. Maybe it is correct - a white flowered selection?
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I have never seen a white sibericum but I guess they must exist. The foliage should be plain green and somewhat glaucous on a real sibericum...I seem to recall the markings on the inside of the flower were also diagnostic, according to images I saw from Finn Haugli...Finn gave me seeds of sibericum but while they get larger each year, they have yet to reach flowering size.
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Quote from: Todd Boland on May 14, 2010, 07:35:08 AM
I have never seen a white sibericum but I guess they must exist. The foliage should be plain green and somewhat glaucous on a real sibericum...I seem to recall the markings on the inside of the flower were also diagnostic, according to images I saw from Finn Haugli...Finn gave me seeds of sibericum but while they get larger each year, they have yet to reach flowering size.
Yes, I think the flower has those marking but I'll check when back home.
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The color of the unknown species is not red! Take a look: Californicum?
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The flower is really small! I have White Beauty just opened today....it is a californicum hybrid I believe...looks like yours but my flowers are at least 3 times larger.
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When you mention White Beauty I remember that I have planted some of that cultivar but this species has always been small flowered. Maybe it is competition from the peony.
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Erythronium 'Pagoda'...the most carefree and rapidly clumping trout lily I grow.
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My 'Pagoda' never clumps like that!
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Your unknown Erythronium looks a lot like a young Erythronium oregonum even with how long the stamens are and with the markings inside the flower. I don't pay attention to the size of the flower for a few years as my Erythronium seedlings generally have smaller flowers for the first and sometimes second year they flower from seed. E. oregonum and californicum cross in the wild easy so there are variants and they become very hard to distinguish another problem I find is suppliers of the bulbs interchange the name on the two plants depending on the nursery.
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Re: Erythronium in 2010
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Quote from: Hoy on May 20, 2010, 03:03:26 PM
The color of the unknown species is not red! Take a look: Californicum?
Can't believe I missed this all those months ago!
It's a californicum, it was just kidding us with that pink bud!
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Re: Erythronium in 2010
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Quote from: Hoy on May 09, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
My slugs devouring all the nicest plants let the Erythroniums alone. I have some plants but try to increase the stock every year. This one is started from seed - should be E. sibiricum. Maybe it is correct - a white flowered selection?
White sibericum do exist, they are very lovely. See Ian Young's Bulb Logs for pix.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb
That plant is not a sibericum... I'd think it's an E. oregonum.
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Re: Erythronium in 2010
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Quote from: IMYoung on April 06, 2011, 05:11:01 AM
This one is started from seed - should be E. sibiricum. Maybe it is correct - a white flowered selection?
White sibericum do exist, they are very lovely. See Ian Young's Bulb Logs for pix.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=bulb
That plant is not a sibericum... I'd think it's an E. oregonum.
Maggi Y.
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Edit: as it happens, Ian has just loaded this week's Bulb Log Diary to the SRGC site and it contains quite a lot of Erythronium photos, particularly E. sibericum... and the white form, known as E. sibericum subsp. altaicum....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2011Apr061302090756BULB_LOG__1411.pdf
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Re: Erythronium in 2010
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Thank you all for contributing to name my Erythroniums
(Now I know where to look if I loose the names later
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Maggi, do all those Erythroniums flower now concurrently in your garden? What a sight it must be!
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Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
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Re: Erythronium in 2010
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They are pretty much all coming out right now, Trond... in a week or so it'll be their full season peak.
We love them. Well, I love them... Ian is
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