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« Reply #90 on: May 16, 2011, 11:02:47 PM »

Wow, won't that be a show at your place!!
I will definitely do that.

My ultimate plan is to replace a major portion of my lawn with Jeffersonia; a Jeffersonian landscape (with both species) Grin
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« Reply #91 on: May 17, 2011, 01:43:19 AM »

Wow, won't that be a show at your place!!
I will definitely do that.

My ultimate plan is to replace a major portion of my lawn with Jeffersonia; a Jeffersonian landscape (with both species) Grin
(and I'm not kidding!)
And you will invite us to the opening display, please? Grin
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« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2011, 01:01:54 PM »

My ultimate plan is to replace a major portion of my lawn with Jeffersonia; a Jeffersonian landscape (with both species) Grin
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That might actually work well.  I have noted how massive Jeffersonia diphylla roots are compared to the plant, and I think they would be integral in keeping other weeds out. 

Both species had a great year last season for germination as unsown volunteers.

And it's a bummer when rain seems to always seems to be prevalent when my Jeffersonia bloom.  Although it is not detrimental on diphylla, rain makes blooming dubia unphotographic.



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« Reply #93 on: May 18, 2011, 01:26:09 AM »

Seems you have a lot of seedlings you too, Rick!
BTW, I am sorry, Rick, but the blue Corydalis didn't set seeds. The pods were empty with just rudimentary seeds.
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« Reply #94 on: May 22, 2011, 08:36:23 PM »


I have noted how massive Jeffersonia diphylla roots are compared to the plant, and I think they would be integral in keeping other weeds out. 

Both species had a great year last season for germination as unsown volunteers.

And it's a bummer when rain seems to always seems to be prevalent when my Jeffersonia bloom.  Although it is not detrimental on diphylla, rain makes blooming dubia unphotographic.


Wow, look at all them baby plants, what's your plan for these?  Potting them up for your Chapter plant sales?   I do think it would only take a few years to convert one's lawn to a Jeffersonia meadow. Wink
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« Reply #95 on: May 22, 2011, 08:48:59 PM »

Jeffersonia dubia with pods.  This year, with lots and lots of cool weather and rain, plants are fattening up and growing tall.  Jeffersonia dubia plants in flower give the impression of compact tuffets covered with bloom, but later on they can grow large; mine are about 16" (40 cm) tall and they start splaying sideways in all directions with the leaf canopy opening up, with a spread of up to 2' (60 cm).


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« Reply #96 on: May 22, 2011, 09:11:49 PM »

Interesting to see the full grown look.. Of course here, by the time they get to that point, it would probably be fall Wink
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« Reply #97 on: June 02, 2011, 05:50:02 PM »

Can anyone spare some seed of Jeffersonia dubia?
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« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2011, 07:30:52 PM »

I've been watching the novel seed pods on Jeffersonia diphylla for nearly a month, waiting for them to ripen, as when they are ripe, they are suddenly so and quickly spill their bounty.  One can ever-so-gently squeeze the seem between the plump pipe-like base and the lid, to see if gives at all.  We had 5 days of rain, heavy at times, and this past Sunday I inspected the pods on the first sunny day since the rain, and nope... they were not ready yet.  

The following day when I got home from work, I checked, on some plants most of the pods already flipped-their-lids and spilled their load! Sad  I collected what seed I could.  In the lower portion of my yard in deeper shade, the pods were still firm.  That was yesterday.  Today (tonight) when I checked those particular plants again, many pods had ruptured and spilled their contents, about half the pods flipped their lids but were still standing upright for easy collection, and just a few pods were still unopened but obviously ready... the seed all typically spills at about the same time, within a couple days.

They're attractive seeds, like small shiny popcorn kernels.  Notice that the pod on the right is a fused or double pod with back-to-back chambers and lids, although no party wall between the chambers.

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« Reply #99 on: June 28, 2011, 11:41:21 PM »

Kinda like a double yoke, Mark.  Cheesy

The last of my Jeffersonia diphylla pods began to open today.  I would have expected them to be later compare to yours, Mark, since your season starts so much earlier.  I did three protected, hand pollinated crosses of J. diphylla x J. dubia, and they all took.  Seeds look very healthy.  One pod did spill out before I got to it, but I think I salvaged about half of them.  None of my J. dubia x J. diphylla crosses were successful.  I'm not surprised: the weather was really crummy at the time.
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« Reply #100 on: June 30, 2011, 03:13:27 AM »

Nice plants, pods and seeds Grin Grin
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« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2011, 07:48:21 PM »

Cleaning up around a clump of Jeffersonia dyphylla, I thought I'd clear around the plump resting buds to reveal them, normally just barely visible unless the top layer of leaf mold and soil is scratched away.  Also seen, is a fine network of roots.  After the photo, the buds were recovered for a safe winter rest.  Trond, maybe these types of leaf buds would not last in your area if they're attractive to slugs.

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« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2011, 09:35:10 PM »

Rick and Mark
Just seen your postings above and it's solved a mystery for me .
I grow Jeffersonia dubia ,(it is currently forming about 6 good sized seed pods--if you are still after fresh seed Gene just PM me ),however i have raised seed  of something a bit different...

Seeing your pics it's obviously J.diphylla , a newy for moi  Grin .Unfortunately i have no idea where the seed came from. Roll Eyes



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« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2011, 09:45:51 PM »

I would agree Dave, looks like Jeffersonia diphylla to me too.  It will fit in nicely with your trillium collection.  When it does flower (will take several years from seed), be sure to watch the buds closely, the flowers are fleeting and may only last but 1 day (in warm temperature) or up to 3-4 days with cool weather.  Even so, this is an excellent plant.
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« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2011, 02:40:23 AM »

Cleaning up around a clump of Jeffersonia dyphylla, I thought I'd clear around the plump resting buds to reveal them, normally just barely visible unless the top layer of leaf mold and soil is scratched away.  Also seen, is a fine network of roots.  After the photo, the buds were recovered for a safe winter rest.  Trond, maybe these types of leaf buds would not last in your area if they're attractive to slugs.

Mark, fortunately I haven't seen slug damage of the only specimen I have of a Jeffersonia. But who knows - sometime a precocious slug find it irresistible.
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