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Gene Mirro
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Nomocharis and Notholirion
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Nomocharis farreri (I think):
Nomocharis aperta (I think):
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Very nice pictures Geen
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I finally have some nomocharis seed sprouting this year after a few unsuccessful attempts, even at just obtaining germination(!). Sure hope they look as nice as yours someday, Gene.
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Wow, just amazing, Gene!
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Can you tell what type of soil you grow them in
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Bravo Gene!
I have tried Nomocharis several times but they disappear. I think the slugs are to be blamed
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Quote from: bulborum on June 07, 2012, 11:32:10 PM
Can you tell what type of soil you grow them in
Roland
I grow everything in raised beds of sandy loam soil. My native soil is heavy clay loam, which I amend by adding a lot of coarse sand and tilling it in. But I believe the key factor is that my cool summer climate is not much different from the Himalaya, where Nomocharis are native. The climate here in summer is cool, even for the Pacific Northwest. And the last couple of summers have been quite wet. The Nomocharis are growing where they get a little shade in midday. I don't know if that is necessary for them.
Some notes on growing them can be found here:
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/plant-portraits/Nomocharis+pardanthina/22/
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Gene
beautiful plants. Here are two of my nomocharis both from Chen-yi. The first L-51 came as N. forrestii but the general opinion is it is N. aperta. This produced a lot of seed last year which has germinated very well.
The second L-153 is supposed to be N. mealagrina. They all seem very mixed up.
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Grown from seed from the Alpine Garden Club of British Columbia.
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Beautiful, Claire and Tony! What extraordinary flowers. What hoops does one have to jump through to get germination of seeds?
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In Scotland they probably grow like weeds! In the south they are as rare as hen's teeth.
Nomocharis
really are the most beautiful of plants and I am very envious of Gene and Tony. From my memory though they germinate readily from seed. Another lovely thing is
Notholirion
- does anyone grow that?
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I've been growing notholirion for a number of years, both N. bulbiferum and N. campanulatum. They come readily from seed and bloom every year (once they reach blooming size). I have a nice stalk budded up and will post a picture when the flowers open. In the meantime, here are a couple of pictures from other years.
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Nomocharis and Notholirion are difficult to grow here although the climate should suit them. However the climate suite slugs and snails too
I have had several attempts to grow these beauties - in wain.
Have one Nomocharis now which I have managed to save from slug attack so far . . .
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Quote from: Lori Skulski on June 09, 2012, 10:50:42 AM
Beautiful, Claire and Tony! What extraordinary flowers. What hoops does one have to jump through to get germination of seeds?
The seeds supposedly germinate at normal room temperature. But I've found that most of the Nomocharis seed offered in the exchanges is dead. Also, many of the seeds won't germinate until they have had several months at winter temperature, which for me is 0 - 5C (32 - 40F). The other problem with Lilium and Nomocharis is that the plants can't stand high soil temperatures. So you can't leave them in the pots in a warm greenhouse, or you will have nearly 100% losses. I plant them in the open ground in late Spring, and mulch with wood chips to keep the soil cool. I place an inverted 17 inch flat over the seedlings to protect against birds, and bait for slugs. Mice, voles, and gophers will destroy the bulbs, so you must take precautions. If you try to speed these plants up with a lot of fertilizer and sun, you will lose many of them. But they do need light fertilization, or it will take forever for them to bloom. It takes me 3 to 4 years to get the first blooms. These seedlings do very well if you germinate them in the Fall and grow them under lights in a cool (60F) location over the winter.
If you grow lilies and Nomocharis over the winter, you may find that some of them will keep growing as long as conditions are good, but some of them will grow for a few months and then go dormant. If you keep the dormant bulbs in warm, moist soil, they may rot. So I place the pot in a sealed plastic bag, and place in the fridge (not the freezer) for 3 or 4 months. Then they are ready to grow again.
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Finally, flowers on Notholirion campanulatum have opened. Here's a picture.
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