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Hoy
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May 30, 2012, 05:08:24 AM »
I have several very nice Maianthemums. On most the flowers are not very showy but the stem and leaves are decorative and they get coloured berries in fall. Here are two - nameless (as usual).
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Trond
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Re: Maianthemum and relatives.
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May 30, 2012, 06:46:11 AM »
Is this the same as false solomons seal?
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May 30, 2012, 07:27:16 AM »
Yes, Maianthemum is the same as Smilacina (False Solomon's Seal is
Maianthemum (Smilacina ) racemosa
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Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
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I certainly see the resemblance to our American False Solomon's seal. Ours has been reclassified as
Maianthemum racemosum
(from
Smilacina racemosa
). But no, it can't be that, according to the Flora of North America. Petals are easily seen on on Trond's photo, and are not on our American native.
Quote from: Hoy on May 30, 2012, 05:08:24 AM
Here are two - nameless (as usual).
Trond, are you showing two different species? They look the same to me...
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Both are forms of tatsiense, which has a lot of variation within that species concept and likely needs some work.
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Quote from: RickR on May 30, 2012, 07:30:22 AM
I certainly see the resemblance to our American False Solomon's seal. Ours has been reclassified as
Maianthemum racemosum
(from
Smilacina racemosa
). But no, it can't be that, according to the Flora of North America. Petals are easily seen on on Trond's photo, and are not on our American native.
Quote from: Hoy on May 30, 2012, 05:08:24 AM
Here are two - nameless (as usual).
Trond, are you showing two different species? They look the same to me...
I see I was a bit unclear
Regarding the False Solomon's Seal, it is as Rick says, the same genus, not the same species.
Rick, I don't know the species name(s) but according to Afloden both are
tatsiense
.
However, although the overall growth pattern is similar they are very different in details like leaf petiole, panicle form etc.
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Trond
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May 30, 2012, 11:24:51 PM »
Gee, I really didn't look very closely at the second pic, I
had thought
it was still completely in bud... obviously not!
I like them both.
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Interesting plants! M racemosum is in Alberta, but not around here that I have seen; M stellatum is common, as is M canadense, and M trifolium (watching for seeds for you again this year, last year there was little seed of that species it seemed, and/or I missed it! All three species here usually seem to make a relatively small number of berries compared to the number of flowers, though sometimes there are a lot of berries)
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I keep my fingers crossed, Cohan
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They are interesting/odd in that they flower early and make berries very late!
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