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Hoy
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Re: Polygonatum 2012
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May 02, 2012, 03:14:05 PM »
My Polygonatums and Maianthemums as well haven't leafed out yet. The progress is slow with the cold nights we still have. We ought to have a Maianthemum thread too!
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Trond
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May 02, 2012, 03:28:56 PM »
Polygonatum lasianthum purpureum that I have seen (Northern Lights and another cultivar) are actually P. amabile from Japan. What distinguishes it are the perianth and filaments, leaves undulate, and the pale mid-rib of the leaf.
I am not sure if I have true kingianum. The red form will get another name, or rather, like so many, its old name back. Falcatum -silver stripe is easy, but so slow to get started. After 10 years I finally have a half dozen stems (and a pot of one year old seedlings crossed with a wild collected falcatum).
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Quote from: Afloden on May 02, 2012, 03:28:56 PM
Polygonatum lasianthum purpureum that I have seen (Northern Lights and another cultivar) are actually P. amabile from Japan. What distinguishes it are the perianth and filaments, leaves undulate, and the pale mid-rib of the leaf.
I am not sure if I have true kingianum. The red form will get another name, or rather, like so many, its old name back. Falcatum -silver stripe is easy, but so slow to get started. After 10 years I finally have a half dozen stems (and a pot of one year old seedlings crossed with a wild collected falcatum).
Aaron
Thanks a lot
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Tim Ingram
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Re: Polygonatum 2012
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May 03, 2012, 03:36:54 PM »
Our garden has always seemed too dry for many of these later growing woodlanders but we do have a small plant of
Polygonatum
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hybridum
'Betberg' with its extraordinary dark leaves. I hope it will begin to increase!
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Dr. Timothy John Ingram
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I garden in a relatively hot and dry region (for the UK!), with an annual rainfall of around 25", winter lows of -10°C and summer highs of 30°C.
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May 04, 2012, 02:36:12 PM »
Tim, i like 'Betberg' too, but it's getting more green now, so a little of its flair walks away. Do you know how fast 'Betberg' spreads?
I bought my plant a few weeks ago with two stems. I have great expectations for that cultivar.
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May 04, 2012, 08:30:48 PM »
Tim, Polygonatum x hybridum 'Betberg' is wonderful! I imagine a mature multi-stemmed clump would make a bold impression in the garden.
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Mark McDonough
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Quote from: RickR on April 30, 2012, 08:54:04 PM
Polygonatum verticillatum
(?) and friends. The individual plant spreads and multiplies, but never gets very tall. From a potted acquisition, in the four full seasons I have had it, it has not flowered.
No flowers yet but buds on my Polygonatum verticillatum. This is the real, native thing!
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Trond
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May 10, 2012, 06:51:39 AM »
I love that 'Betberg' also...hope I can find one around here.
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May 11, 2012, 09:33:31 AM »
Bought this Polygonatum at a local NARGS New England Chapter plant auction, labeled as
P. mandshuricum
, although I can not find any reference to such a species, no names that are even close. Any one know know what species it might be. It is described as very low growing and somewhat aggressive spreading.
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May 11, 2012, 12:02:52 PM »
Interesting to see all of these Polygonatum - I have, for one - a P.falcatum 'Variegatum' which I've had for several years, but the poor thing has been moved twice, and worse yet, now in it's permanent place I have managed to step on it just when it's coming up two years in a row. It must be jinxed! Yet, it still manages to come up, and is now well marked. It's always late in coming up, and I don't blame it, it's probably scared.
I also have a Polygonatum biflorum which I wanted for so long, and just last year it started making some headway, it grew to oh, maybe just under a metre. I'm growing it in a shady woodland area so it does come up late as well. I'll take some photos when it's up and growing.
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Faith S. Gardening in central Alberta climate, from min. -44 c to max. 36+ C. ( not often! ) Avg. annual precip. ~ 48 cm Altitude ~ 820 m. Have "frying pan gardens" up around the house, and also some woodland areas down the path...and love them both.
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Mark,
That "mandshuricum" is the Chinese mainland form of P. humile. Hard to believe that it is the same as the smaller, more attractive, glossy leaved plant in cultivation. I have been unable to track down where the material in cultivation originated, but it seems the coastal Japanese plant is very unlike the Chinese/Korean plant. Maybe DNA will help.
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May 14, 2012, 12:52:25 AM »
Polygonatum multiflorum is naturalised in my woodland - the slugs don't like it! Bad pictures but it is very shady underneath the rhododendron canopy.
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Trond
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I had this as Polygonatum humile but was told it was too large (at up to about 20 cm), but I see in this thread that it comes in different sizes. Hope someone can confirm or otherwise.
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Stephen Barstow
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Stephen,
Looks like the China mainland form. The Japanense/Korean island's plant is much smaller. Smell the flowers when the open, they should smell like cinnamon.
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June 11, 2012, 04:18:18 PM »
The first flowers have opened on a plant which is very similar to P verticillatum. The leaves have another colour though and the plant is much bigger.
The first two are the unknown, the third is verticillatum.
I have also a pink one, bought from Larz Danielsson in Sweden as sp from China!
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Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!
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