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Author Topic: Eritrichium howardii  (Read 3742 times)
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2012, 10:53:27 AM »
Fantastic Michael,  Shocked Shocked

Thoroughly enjoyed seeing your posts.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2012, 01:11:31 PM »
So much variation, Michael! Worth growing just for the foliage forms...
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2012, 04:08:17 PM »
Looks like I forgot to return to this thread to post what Eritrichium pauciflorum ssp. sajanense looks like in bloom, so here it is.  Two seedlings in different conditions; there is repeat bloom throughout the season.
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2012, 01:17:37 AM »
Does sajanense indicate a Russian species/form?
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2012, 10:37:44 AM »
Yes, presumably.  The seeds were collected by Pavelka at 2000m in the Sajan Mts., Russia, according to his catalogue.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2012, 08:00:48 PM »
That's where I recognised the name Sajan from. lol- don't recall hearing of those mountains until looking at seedlists!
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2012, 03:47:08 AM »
Isn't the correct spelling in English Sayan? The Russian spelling is Саяны, and the letter я should be ya in English (ja in Norwegian though Wink )

Seems to be a remote place anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2012, 01:29:56 PM »
I don't know, Trond- I only know it from Czech seed lists!
A very quick google search, and Britannica says: 'Sayan Mountains, also spelled Sajan or Saian' so I guess however you spell it, the pronunciation would be more english y than j..  this is an occasional habit in modern english- to keep non-english spelling, leading to great confusion for pronunciation ..lol

Mostly I consider this name a good sign, since I figure if plants are from mountains in Russia, they have a good chance of being hardy enough here!
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2012, 03:31:46 PM »
Greetings,

E. howardii is one of the most common plants where I live in Western Montana.  Virtually every limestone outcrop is covered with them.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2012, 07:07:15 PM »
Lovely photos Lori, Michael and Brian!!

To see them is to want them and I do!! Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2012, 09:03:35 PM »
Wow, fantastic, Brian!  Sounds like it is as common there as Myosotis asiatica (a similar colour at least) is here!

Quote from: Hoy on December 10, 2012, 03:47:08 AM
Isn't the correct spelling in English Sayan? The Russian spelling is Саяны, and the letter я should be ya in English (ja in Norwegian though Wink )
I dunno, Trond.  The Plant List (if you like it or any of the other taxonomic efforts out there!) does show it as Eritrichium pauciflorum ssp. sajanense... but says it's a synonym of Eritrichium villosum. 
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-4002198
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2012, 12:34:19 PM »
Lori, the name of the plant is one thing, the English name of the mountain another Grin
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2012, 07:44:03 PM »
Yes, Trond.  I see what you're saying:
Quote from: cohan on December 10, 2012, 01:29:56 PM
A very quick google search, and Britannica says: 'Sayan Mountains, also spelled Sajan or Saian'...
I didn't even think to check that, I just referred to the collection locale as it was written in the seed list ("Sajan").  Geography is definitely not my strong suit!!
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2012, 11:48:45 PM »
Quote from: Hoy on December 12, 2012, 12:34:19 PM
Lori, the name of the plant is one thing, the English name of the mountain another Grin

So true:
omeiensis, omeiena, emeisensis, emeiensis ...
koreana, coreana, koraiensis ...
etc.
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« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2012, 01:23:02 PM »
Quote from: Hoy on December 12, 2012, 12:34:19 PM
Lori, the name of the plant is one thing, the English name of the mountain another Grin


As you can see from my post above, you can call it just about anything you want in English  Grin

Brian- wonderful! I hope we'll be seeing a lot more of your natives Smiley
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