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Fermi
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March 30, 2012, 02:47:04 AM »
I think there've been daffodil pics in the "spring bulbs" threads already but this is definitely NOT a spring bulb - Narcissus viridiflorus, the autumn flowering, green (jonquil) daffodil! It's hardy for us and grows best in an unwatered part of the rock garden.
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It is astrange one! I have considered trying it but believe it needs drier climate.
Does it have scent, Fermi?
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Quote from: Hoy on March 30, 2012, 03:25:40 AM
It is a strange one! I have considered trying it but believe it needs drier climate.
Does it have scent, Fermi?
It has a scent similar to some jonquills or tazettas, fairly strong but not unpleasant.
The other autumn flowerer I have is Narcissus serotinus but I believe it's now called N. obsoletus!
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I have seen the threads on SRGC about autumn blooming Narcissus; they're so different, rather strange looking things, that I'm amazed that these haven't been broken off to become a separate genus. I like the "weird and wonderful" and I'm intrigued by them. I'm not sure why, but when I see these in bloom, I'm reminded of Tulbaghia, another genus with unlikely looking plants.
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Narcissus viridiflorus is very cool
. If I could grow it here, I'd seek it out.
Your plants are really superb, Fermi!
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two forms of Narcissus alpestris. The white one is the usual one and the yellow is one I found amongst hundreds of white ones.It is slowly increasing and is now three bulbs after eight years.
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They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?
I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!
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They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?
I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!
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It is an alpine plant in the Pyrenees and so will be worth trying. I do not grow it outside because my problem is not cold but wet.
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Many daffodils can handle a lot of moisture
not sure for this one
but I found N. pallidiflorus on a slope
in a few cm running water
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Quote from: Tony Willis on April 19, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Hoy on April 19, 2012, 01:48:56 PM
They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?
I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!
Trond
It is an alpine plant in the Pyrenees and so will be worth trying. I do not grow it outside because my problem is not cold but wet.
Thanks Tony. Here at my summerhouse it is much drier climate than at home so it is worth trying!
Quote from: bulborum on April 19, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
Many daffodils can handle a lot of moisture
not sure for this one
but I found N. pallidiflorus on a slope
in a few cm running water
Roland
Roland, I remember from a trip to Andorra in May several years ago that I saw huge swathes of daffodils (both white and yellow) growing in very wet marsh like fields along the rivers. Don't know the species though. I also found daffodils (very small ones) in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco growing in wet soil where the snow was melting nearby.
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Narcissus alpestris is very interesting, with its long "snout" and "dog ears". The yellow is very nice, too, but especially because it seems to have more undulation on the sepals. Very attractive!
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Quote from: Hoy on April 19, 2012, 04:05:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Willis on April 19, 2012, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: Hoy on April 19, 2012, 01:48:56 PM
They're lovely, Tony. Do they have a scent which go with them too?
I have never tried this species either, how hardy is it outside? I am always looking for plants which are deer resistant and all daffodils seem to be!
Trond
It is an alpine plant in the Pyrenees and so will be worth trying. I do not grow it outside because my problem is not cold but wet.
Thanks Tony. Here at my summerhouse it is much drier climate than at home so it is worth trying!
Quote from: bulborum on April 19, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
Many daffodils can handle a lot of moisture
not sure for this one
but I found N. pallidiflorus on a slope
in a few cm running water
Roland
Roland, I remember from a trip to Andorra in May several years ago that I saw huge swathes of daffodils (both white and yellow) growing in very wet marsh like fields along the rivers. Don't know the species though. I also found daffodils (very small ones) in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco growing in wet soil where the snow was melting nearby.
Yes this is true but is very much a generalisation. In for instance the Sierra de Cazorla National Park there is one species N. longispathus growing in the streams .This is illustrated in 'Narcissus' by Blanchard and yet not many miles distant they grow in hot dry conditions. N. alpestris is in some areas truly alpine flowering by melting snow. N. serotinus in Turkey is almost a desert plant it is so hot and dry in summer whilst N. polyanthos grows in vernal marshes. I think hardiness can only be tested by experience
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Well Tony
I would love to try some seeds in the Humid Normandy
maybe we can swap with some N. pallidiflorus seeds
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Some of the winter Narcissus are out .
This one ,unnamed, copes easily with our so called winter --a few nights last week were -5c overnight with day temps reaching 8c.The last couple of days have reached 13c so it's been quite pleasant while rose pruning for various clients.
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Well, here the night temperature has fallen to 14C the last nights from 18C earlier
BTW it is a pretty Narcissus!
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