Fritillaria 2012

[Michael J Campbell]

Nice Frits Dave.

[RickR]

Those are some big anthers on F. affinis! 

Did everyone notice the rippling of the petal edges on that one?
Way cool, Dave! 

[McDonough]

Those are some big anthers on F. affinis! 

Did everyone notice the rippling of the petal edges on that one?
Way cool, Dave! 

I have to agree Rick, the F. affinis Dave shows us is superb, such a distinctive species in its own right, but this form is really fine and so well grown, I'm jealous!

[Toole]

Nice Frits Dave.

Thanks Michael.

Those are some big anthers on F. affinis! 

Did everyone notice the rippling of the petal edges on that one?
Way cool, Dave! 

Gee Rick -- you are so observant  This was it's first flowering from seed ---in view of your comments i went and viewed my pics of the other F.affinis that flower later on here --none of those show rippling of the petal edge ......

I have to agree Rick, the F. affinis Dave shows us is superb, such a distinctive species in its own right, but this form is really fine and so well grown, I'm jealous!

Thanks Mark --hopefully it will set seed so i can pass it around.

Cheers Dave.

[IMYoung]

Most  Frit. affinis of the type shown by Dave Toole  - which used to be known as F. lanceolata  and F.  lanceolata tristulis-  usually have those marvelous reptilian ripples on the petal edges. It really highlights the waxy, sturdy nature of the blooms. 

Maggi

[Toole]

Most  Frit. affinis of the type shown by Dave Toole  - which used to be known as F. lanceolata  and F.  lanceolata tristulis-  usually have those marvelous reptilian ripples on the petal edges. It really highlights the waxy, sturdy nature of the blooms. 

Maggi

Thanks Maggi --I'm still learning --in fact i think I'll always be 'an apprentice of many and a master of none'  as my horticultural interests are so wide .

Now if it was NZ natives alpines we were talking about .............................................................. I'd probably still need help !  

Kind regards to 'Scottie'.

Cheers Dave.

[IMYoung]

Most  Frit. affinis of the type shown by Dave Toole  - which used to be known as F. lanceolata  and F.  lanceolata tristulis-  usually have those marvelous reptilian ripples on the petal edges. It really highlights the waxy, sturdy nature of the blooms. 

Maggi

Meant to say - don't they remind you of Rick R's. 'little shop of horrors' plant  in his avatar ?



"Scottie" says long time no see, T00lie- hopes you are well and looking forward to a great summer.

M

[Longma]

The first leaves on Fritillaria davidii are well underway now. Hoping for flowers in this pot this coming spring.

[McDonough]

Hello Ron (Longma), welcome to NARGS Forum.  I really like the net-textured leaves of this species, have admired beautiful pots of them on SRGC and elsewhere, it's on my list of frits to try.

By the way, please excuse the delay in processing NARGS Forum registration requests, Thursday was Thanksgiving Day holiday here in the US, with family visiting, and then I'm still needing to work overtime in preparation for a major convention next week.

[Longma]

Hello Ron (Longma), welcome to NARGS Forum.  I really like the net-textured leaves of this species, have admired beautiful pots of them on SRGC and elsewhere, it's on my list of frits to try.

By the way, please excuse the delay in processing NARGS Forum registration requests, Thursday was Thanksgiving Day holiday here in the US, with family visiting, and then I'm still needing to work overtime in preparation for a major convention next week.

Thanks very much Mark.
It is a most unusual Fritillaria, but not very difficult to grow ( flowering it is another thing! ). It has roots almost all year round and needs to be kept  moist to very moist, in an open free draining 'woodsy' style mix. I have a number in pots and they are outside spring, summer, fall then into a shaded greenhouse for winter when I keep them on the drier side, until flowering ( hopefully!) in spring. Is it allowed to send 'rice grains' to USA? If so let me know in spring if you'd like me to send some in summer.
I completely forgot      that Thursday was Thanksgiving Day holiday. I hope you and all Forum members had a wonderful holiday.   I am very pleased to be here now, am looking forward to learning, and hope I can contribute in some way.

[Arne]

While waiting for a new comprehensive fritillaria book  I found a series of these on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fritillaria-Falcata-Jesse-Russell/dp/551224969X/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353787843&sr=1-5

Do anyone have any experience with these. Can you find the same articles searching the Web?

[Longma]

I believe you don't have to wait much longer Arne. I have been led to understand that the long awaited Kew monograph on Fritillaria will be published next year ( 2013).
I have also seen these titles, that you refer to, on Amazon and wonder what they are about. I follow the published papers re Fritillaria very carefully and cannot get a grasp on these offers. I think that if you have any questions regarding these Frits ( F.falcata etc. ), then much better to post your query on this forum, than pay for these 'whatevers'!! I am sure there are people here who can address any queries you have.

[Arne]

Thanks, that was good news, I will save my money until then No praticular questions at the moment, more a search for knowledge.

A cold Norwegian summer and atumn has already got the first Fritillaria seeds to sprout here.

Arne

[Longma]

I'm saving my pocket money too Arne in anticipation of a quality publication.

The Frit sprouting is incredibly early and will certainly be damaged through the winter if exposed to your Norwegian climate. What species do you think it is? and what conditions are you able to give it? If its sprouted and then gets frozen it may not make it!

[McDonough]

While waiting for a new comprehensive fritillaria book  I found a series of these on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fritillaria-Falcata-Jesse-Russell/dp/551224969X/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1353787843&sr=1-5

Do anyone have any experience with these. Can you find the same articles searching the Web?

Hello Arne, welcome to the NARGS Forum!

Regarding the Amazon.com link, it is a strange and curious situation indeed.  I spent some time trying to figure out what these things are, they don't appear to be real books. Using a different link by searching on Google, I started down an intricate web of what appears to be nefarious scamming.  One link listed this "book" as "Publication Date: July 27, 2012, High Quality Content by WIKIPEDIA articles!, by Ronald Cohn & Jesse Russell.

Googling the authors, leads to various booksellers, including Alibris, with hundreds up hundreds of books by Ronald Cohn & Jesse Russell, all of which have no details whatsoever and seem to be some sort of mysterious offering. Some are very high priced, none have been reviewed, many or most are in various languages, all are listed as published 2012.
To see the list, use this link (but don't buy, these are surely scam offerings):
http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Jesse%20Russell,%20Ronald%20Cohn

On a graphic image on the side on one Amazon link, it lists Bookvika publishing, on a 2nd image, Pubmix.com, and elsewhere found references to Book on Demand Ltd. (July 27, 2012).  There is indeed a new phenomenon called POD or Print on Demand, where publishers will print books by individual order, the technology today allowing books to be stored digitally and printed per order. But I think what we're seeing here in this case is a network of scam offers. See this user-response page on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RB3IPJIBXIZW4
One reviewer wrote "Bookvika Publishing are well known scammers. All of their books are copied and pasted from Wikipedia articles. PLEASE DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY"

This link is showing that a large number of sites are basically lifting (stealing) Wikipedia information and selling it or posting it as their own information, sigh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Abc#Bookvika_Publishing

So, Ron I'm glad you posted the news about an upcoming monograph on Fritillaria.  Do you know who the author(s) will be?  I know that when it comes out, I certainly must get a copy.

(PS: if much discussion on this book fraud situation, I can more it to its own topic. It is worth being aware of these shady dealings that somehow are allowed to carry out their business on respected sites like Amazon and Alibris)