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Author Topic: What do you see on your garden walks? 2012  (Read 27007 times)
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« Reply #930 on: December 05, 2012, 12:31:44 PM »

Besides the excellent plants, your vistas are always very well chosen, Michael- expansive views that make your property seem endless! The stone paths are lovely too Smiley
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« Reply #931 on: December 05, 2012, 01:44:47 PM »

One of the problems with troughs in a very exposed garden is that they don't seem to have a very long lifetime.  The first pictures show what's happening with a trough (hypertufa) that I've had many years.  The plants of note are the white form of Astragalus spatulatus, Phlox pulvinata (ice blue form) and Hymenoxys acaulis caespitosa.  They perform beautifully every year so this is a trough I want to keep.  I moved it and damaged a corner in doing so.  Replaced the corner by cementing a stone that looks like the head of a wolf, depending on how much imagination you have.  Now the side of the trough is also wearing down.
The last two pictures are of a trough that Maichael Peden made which is all cement, I think.  It is incredibly heavy, but is sailing through the winters with no problems.


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« Reply #932 on: December 05, 2012, 06:16:08 PM »

Michael, festive color on those Saxes, nice, but it's the late senescence of Allium thunbergii that always amuses me, with that charmingly gauche color combination of pinkish-purple drying florets and orange stems. The Eriogonum color is awesome as well, truly all-season plants.

Anne, beautiful troughs, I can imagine how impressive these are in full growth and flower.
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« Reply #933 on: December 05, 2012, 08:10:06 PM »

Charming and gauche... you don't hear those words conjunctively used very often. Grin  But I have to agree, it's quite accurate in this case.

Fall/early winter brings out the colors in lots of the cool plants.  While a "normal" person sees this time of year as drab and colorless, there is a good deal of vibrant examples here.  

Ann, I had no idea there was a propensity for multiple flushes of western phlox spp.  I just thought the few times that I have seen such examples were anomalies.  The troughs are wonderful.

Micheal, was the Schlerocactus from seed?  And at what point did you plant it out?  
   Such exquisite work on those troughs of yours that Ann showed.  As a companion to this topic:
Styrofoam Trough Innovations
would you consider starting a new topic with those troughs, perhaps labeled "Hypertufa and Cement Trough Innovations", and explain your method?
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« Reply #934 on: December 06, 2012, 09:40:57 AM »

Cohan, Anne et. al. thanks for nice comments. One of my aims here has been to display my "common man's" garden and a garden that is not intensely managed; ie. tons of compost, fertilizer, and mass plantings involving the constant addition and removal of material. I wish it to be a partnership with nature with ME as an ACCEPTED partner! The blue spruces in the photos are quite popular around here -those are on the neighboring properties  Wink The path photo was chosen to hide the house across street -Ah! tricky! -although it is not a bad looking little house.

Anne, IMO that is fantastic material you grow in those troughs! I often wonder how a solid concrete vs. a hypertufa trough might differ in cultivation, the solid trough presumably being less amenable to the immediate loss of water (water tables etc.?); less permeable; less "airy". That, and all my troughs have a single drain hole. You may be on front line of any testing along these lines. Sorry the troughs aren't a bit more mobile  Grin but well conceived concrete is extremely durable; that's why I did it the way I did. Is the coin still there? (BTW -love your repair job.)

The Sclerocactus was grown from Mesa Garden seeds (I also planted S. parviflorus). A general (developing) "philosophy" here is: get it out of the pot and into the garden as soon as possible or it is toast! That plant must have been quite a bit smaller when it was first put out. Planting seedlings seems to work well for a lot of things here including cacti -but one must remember to keep watch over them.

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« Reply #935 on: December 06, 2012, 10:03:59 AM »

And here's another quick endorsement of fall planting/propagating; It works really quite well. It's a little late here because ground can freeze and heave in some situations, but , being reminded by the "International Rock Gardener" that I had Potentilla nitida -though never bloomed in a dozen years- wanting to stretch its toes in new conditions, I went out and ripped up a couple of small "Irishman's cuttings" from my waning plants yesterday to plant in my new limestone rockery. I still think I may see a blossom some day  Undecided
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« Reply #936 on: December 06, 2012, 12:55:54 PM »

With Michael's comments added to Tim's about P nitida being shy to flower, I am now a bit anxious to know what if anything my young plants will do... will be watching keenly this year...
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« Reply #937 on: December 07, 2012, 09:41:24 AM »

A few more treasures in winter garb: Areneria hookeri from 2009 seed; A favorite little thing -Sphaeromeria capitata; Potentilla nitida; Eriogonum caespitosum spare blooms for many weeks!; An old Minuartia from the high screes NE of Cortez, Colorado (Paronychia, Dianthus, etc. too); Acantholimon litwinovii color progression and A. ulicinum -still just green -(Moltkia too) interesting to note the difference in winter strategies of not just these, but of other evergreen plants as well.

             

And, of course, moss which finds this time of year most delightful.
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« Reply #938 on: December 07, 2012, 01:07:14 PM »

These all look great, Michael! I agree, it is very interesting to see the different strategies plants use to solve similar problems..
I have a couple of tiny bits of Arenaria, which I think is hookeri also.. they grew rather fast in the pots, then once in ground slowed down/compacted very dramatically- I thought it was lost at first, but they are still there (or were- who knows what is under the snow?  Grin )
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« Reply #939 on: December 09, 2012, 11:02:38 AM »

One of the problems with troughs in a very exposed garden is that they don't seem to have a very long lifetime. 
I have a couple of hypertufa troughs that are spalling at the top - when they were made, some additional mix had to be added to top them up, apparently (so the cause of the structural weakness seems clear).   The other troughs made at the same time have been fine.  We also had one trough, since dismantled, that was made from a hypertufa recipe that DH found on the internet and used very much against his better judgement - it was soft and crumbly almost from the start; from the texture and from the excess of brown concrete dye we added, we referred to it as "the chocolate brownie trough".  Grin   We've had our oldest troughs for 17 years now without damage - the oldest are finally starting grow lichen on them. Smiley 
Anyway, just wondering how long did it take for your troughs to start showing damage, Anne?
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« Reply #940 on: December 09, 2012, 01:39:02 PM »

Roughly in the 10 to 15 year range, Lori.  The concrete troughs I got from Michael Peden remain absolutely perfect.  They are very rough on the outside as you can see from the pictures and that makes them look very nice.  My favorite troughs are 1) a real stone sink from Ireland and 2) troughs I got at Berkshire when Sally Cummings was bringing them from a company in England.  They are not real, light enough to pick up and twirl around with one hand before planting and so far indestructible.  Naturally, the company is no longer making them.  Attaching a picture of one of them.
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« Reply #941 on: December 09, 2012, 01:40:08 PM »

Don't know why it didn't attach, sorry.


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« Reply #942 on: December 09, 2012, 01:57:31 PM »

It would be wonderful to have real stone sinks!  I imagine shipping it home was a bit of a feat, or did you find it locally?
Wow, the Berkshire troughs sound amazing - even empty, ours weigh a ton.  
Hey, you can't post a photo of a beautiful trough without telling us what's planted in it!   Shocked  Cheesy
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« Reply #943 on: December 09, 2012, 04:42:37 PM »

The stone sink (will try to remember to photograph it tomorrow) was part of a display the year the Philadelphia Flower Show had Ireland as a theme.  I talked to the fellow who made the display and we had a meeting of the mind and the trough became mine.  It was a birthday, Christmas and everything gift to myself for a few years!
The plants in the trough pictured include:  Daphne x hendersonii 'Ernst Hauser', Astragalus purshii, Oxytropis sp (grown from seed as an astragalus and never could identify it), Aquilegia jonesii, Penstemon thompsoniae desperatus, Douglasia nivalis, Phlox pungens, Phlox sp, Lewisia brachycalyx,  Paronychia sessiliflora, et al.  The trough is almost 4' long and it's 18" deep in the interior.  Everything loves this trough and I'm convinced it's the depth.  It full sun until late in the afternoon.
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« Reply #944 on: December 09, 2012, 06:06:54 PM »

Interesting to see and hear about the various troughs, looking forward to the pic of the stone one!
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