Saussurea

I wonder if this thread would not be better in the family/genus section so that it would be easier for new people to find?

Okay, the last two species I grow, both from seeds this spring (2012) and planted out late summer; so we have to see if they make it through the winter..

Saussurea nepalensis these were very vigorous seedlings, and must have been very high germination- the pot was packed full, and as seed pots were in part sun, leaves stretched out.. I think it will be more compact in ground.. I have them in a couple of beds in different spots to test them..

Saussurea riederi from the little I can find on this, unlike the low growing Himalayan alpine species, this plant should have a bit taller leafy stems, coming from sub/alpine? meadows in Japan etc; so I planted it with other sub/alpine meadow plants (presumed to be a bit tall for the rock garden) in a berm which has a mix of clayey soil/topsoil and partly decomposed sod, with some gravel in the top 6 inches or so; despite those expectations of height, though, these seedlings are smaller and slower growing so far than the nepalensis...