Saussurea

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Lori S.
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Frances, with Syneilesis, I always think of "little umbrellas"  - such an apt description!  I suppose your plants may have have seeded around?  (Mine still aren't old enough to even bloom yet!)  It sounds like lots of people on this forum are growing it - has anyone observed it seeding around excessively?

Just thought of something... Podophyllum peltatum looks somewhat similar to me when emerging (though not hairy like Syneilesis), and Todd mentioned in another thread that he finds it to be overly spreading in his conditions.  I wonder if that could be what's popping up all over?      

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Lori S.
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Saussurea eopygmaea emerging:

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

cohan
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Interesting how varied the leaves seem to be in this genus!
Here is S aff superba from Holubec, still just teeny tiny leaves emerging (you can see last year's larger dried leaves, and I doubt those were full size..)

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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Here is another, slower to emerge than the other couple I have, this is almost a week ago- interesting only this one plant emerged this colour, same sp in another spot emerged green, which they all are now..
I think this is S nidularis.. still tiny, but not showing signs of looking the way the  jansalpines shows them, though I could imagine them looking more like this:
http://baike.soso.com/v9977759.htm
hopefully I'll see in a year or so!

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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Shots from thurs morning, Oct 04, heavy frost, -5 to -9; amazingly, virtually all plants on the property look the same after those couple of cold nights as they did before (we'd had freezing temps earlier, but that was the coldest)..

1-3 Saussurea aff leontodontoides

4 Saussurea aff superba

5,6 Saussurea nidularis

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Mark McD
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Good looking Saussurea species there Cohan, even when frosted.  Judging from their size, they may bloom next year, then you'll have to show us.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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cohan
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I'm hoping so! I'm a little worried now, since I lost one rosette some time ago on S aff superba- I figured I had damaged the stem while rooting out a dandelion; well, now another seems to be fading- they go very slowly, centre leaves okay still, losing outer leaves; I'd think it was just the season, except it is the same pattern the other rosette followed, and a couple others are still losing no leaves.. not much I can do at this time of year, will have to see how they are in spring .. fingers crossed...

I also have seedlings in ground from this spring of S nepalensis and S riederi.. have to see if they overwinter yet..

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Hoy
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Seems Saussurea is a favorite genus, Cohan! Hope they all survive. Nice rockery too with those pebbles.

Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

cohan
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Thanks, Trond- funny thing is, I was originally interested in the genus for the species with elaborate bracts around the inflorescences, some very exotic looking plants! I ordered some seed from Holubec a couple of years ago, and he sent me several extra species as bonus, and got plants of ( I think) 3 out of 6 species- so I don't have any of those crazy bract species..lol.. but still like them all- I'm finding unusual Asteraceae in general interesting..

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

cohan
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I wonder if this thread would not be better in the family/genus section so that it would be easier for new people to find?

Okay, the last two species I grow, both from seeds this spring (2012) and planted out late summer; so we have to see if they make it through the winter..

Saussurea nepalensis these were very vigorous seedlings, and must have been very high germination- the pot was packed full, and as seed pots were in part sun, leaves stretched out.. I think it will be more compact in ground.. I have them in a couple of beds in different spots to test them..

Saussurea riederi from the little I can find on this, unlike the low growing Himalayan alpine species, this plant should have a bit taller leafy stems, coming from sub/alpine? meadows in Japan etc; so I planted it with other sub/alpine meadow plants (presumed to be a bit tall for the rock garden) in a berm which has a mix of clayey soil/topsoil and partly decomposed sod, with some gravel in the top 6 inches or so; despite those expectations of height, though, these seedlings are smaller and slower growing so far than the nepalensis...

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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