New NARGS Forum - Issues, Question, Suggestions

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Daniel Dillon
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Joined: 2012-09-28

Mark McD wrote:

Email Notifications:

I notice that I sometimes get two email notifications for the same reply.  They're slightly different, one indicates who made the comment, and the other one does not. And, the unsubscribe link is different. I prefer the version with the commentor's name. ... ... Is there a reason why the first line of the text is cut-off then the full line of text appearing on the second line?

I believe the first one is saying you explicitly subscribed to a post, either Topic or Reply, whereas the second one is saying your default is set to always subscribe to your posts. You'd think you would only get one in the end. I will see if I can change the second one to show the commenter's username too.

The first line, chopped off after a few words, is the Title (or Subject) of the Reply. By default, if the field is left blank, the first few words become the 'Subject' in all output of the Reply. The 'Subject' field is disabled in the forum as it would be a nuisance. The subject line should therefore also be removed from output as well. I can see about removing that.

Daniel Dillon (artist) & Esther Wrightman (gardener)
St. Andrews, New Brunswick.

deesen
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Joined: 2011-01-31

It's awfully quiet around the Forum across many of the threads, which must mean folks are finding it difficult to come to terms with the new setup. Does anyone know if the many points raised by Mark and others have been worked on, or are being worked on?

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b

Fermi
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Joined: 2010-03-03

Hi David,

I've only recently returned to this Forum after sorting out my password, etc.

As I said earlier  it will take some getting used to, but it's probably because I'm of the generation that thought this computer lark would never last!

I'm a bit curious as to why I (and many others) am listed as "guest" rather than member -  I am paid up!<grin>

cheers

fermi

Fermi de Sousa,
Central Victoria, Australia
Min: -7C, Max: +40C

Lori S.
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-10-27

Fermi, I have no idea why it says "guest" but will ask to have it looked into.

Hmm, I think the best remedy for inactivity in this forum is for all of us who are here, to post and post often!!   :-)  I would love to see more discussion and more photos, so please join in!

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

deesen
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Joined: 2011-01-31

Friends,

I posted what follows on 8 August (I had to jump through all kinds of hoops today to perform what should be a simple task of using a quote from a previous post and it now appears at the end of this- don't ask!). To date, apart from Mark who replied to me privately, no-one of NARGS authority has taken the trouble to respond to my main point and I repeat it here:-

"Does anyone know if the many points raised by Mark and others have been worked on, or are being worked on"

In my opinion the new Forum is entirely deficient and not fit for purpose and is the root course of the number of posts now falling to negligible proportions. IT DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY AND BECAUSE IT'S TOO DIFFICULT  TO USE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP ON IT!!!!! ARE YOU LISTENING, OR DON'T YOU CARE!

 Similar views are being expressed currently on another thread.

I think the lack of response from NARGS Officers, and I have written personally to Peter George (without any reply) is bordering on contemptuous.

"It's awfully quiet around the Forum across many of the threads, which must mean folks are finding it difficult to come to terms with the new setup. Does anyone know if the many points raised by Mark and others have been worked on, or are being worked on?"

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b

Hoy
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Title: Member
Joined: 2009-12-15

I share the same thoughts as David! Although I have learnt how to post in this new forum I have still not managed to orient myself in the topics and threads here.

And it is clear that a lot of contributors have disappeared.

Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

The new NARGS Forum could be fixed, if only there was a responsive process to get it fixed. I don't want to even discuss why NARGS needed to change the forum to this new format, it wasn't something that was needed, but let that point end there; I think I speak for the NARGS Moderators that we just want to fix the current problems and make new NARGS Forum a better experience.  The single high priority improvement to the site, would be the addition of a "Mark Unread" button, to flag a topic as New.  I have asked repeatedly, is it technically feasible in the new NARGS Drupal web format, to add a button to mark a topic as Unread; this would enhance the ability to have meaningful responses, but so far in two months of trying, it meets with silence, we're powerless (the Moderators) to improve the experience.  Response from NARGS Leadership is basically nil as well, not sure why, perhaps the project is an embarrassment.

If some high priority items could be addressed by the "NARGS Web Helper Guy" Daniel Dillon, then we could move forward and get the improvements enacted and be in a better situation. The NARGS Web Master position appears to have been terminated, but impossible to get a direct answer from NARGS Leadership what the status is for having a NARGS Web Master.

In terms of using the new NARGS Forum, and how to post photos, new instructions can be made. BUT, we need to hear from NARGS Leadership on the issues that have been raised, and ways to address those issues, to feel confident there is a process in place.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

Fermi
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Joined: 2010-03-03

I did find it a bit different to start with, but think I'm getting the hang of it now!

Still a bit pathetic at posting pics but I find it very easy to post comments using the iPad.

Can't wait to show you the Iris aucheri which has flowered today - from NARGS Seedex 2005! - but it'll have to wait till I can download the pic at work tomorrow! <grin>

cheers

fermi

Fermi de Sousa,
Central Victoria, Australia
Min: -7C, Max: +40C

Cockcroft
Title: Member
Joined: 2010-01-27

It's unfortunate that the forum is so little used.  When I check who is on the forum, I usually see only one or two other names.  Now the NARGS forum has never been as active as the Scottish Rock Garden Forum (with 71 users today, for example), but the drop-off in activity since the changeover to Drupal is dramatic.  Before the change, I thought the activity was picking up.  The discussions were certainly livelier.

As a retired techie, I have pretty much figured out how to use the forum as much as I want to use it.  I find it incredibly slow compared to the old forum, and no improvement in any way over the old format.  It is distressing that so much money has gone into creating a product that does not meet expectation.

Claire Cockcroft
Bellevue, Washington Zone 7-8

Mark McD
Title: Moderator
Joined: 2009-12-14

Actually Fermi, once one understands how uploading embedded photos work on this site, I find it much more flexible than with other sites, even moreso than SMF forums (such as SRGC and previous NARGS).  I like the easy ability to reposition embedded photos (no need to reload them), add caption text, automatic resizing if uploading images larger than the stated max size, and many more photos allowed during one upload session.  Feel free to send me a PM or Moderators Lori and Rick if you have some questions on uploading photos. Much better than Facebook too, where it's nearly impossible to control the order of images when uploading multiple images, then needing to separately caption each photo otherwise they will float around FB captionless, to the frustration of FB users.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
antennaria at aol.com
 

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