More "Scoots".... err, "Scutes"?

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Kelaidis
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If you all knew how many hundreds of Scutellaria pontica I have pulled: Gwen wanted me to get rid of it altogether, but I love that hot magenta, and always try to leave a few "Between a rock and a hard place": I try and collect every seed so they don't seed around, and no matter what I do hundreds show up every spring, insinuate themselves into the tightest buns and choice cushion plants (I end up destroying both cushion and Scutellaria trying to extract them)...it is infuriating!

For every minion of the peaks there are a dozen steppe children growing in the dry Continental heart of all hemispheres still unknown to horticulture.

Hoy
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Kelaidis wrote:

If you all knew how many hundreds of Scutellaria pontica I have pulled: Gwen wanted me to get rid of it altogether, but I love that hot magenta, and always try to leave a few "Between a rock and a hard place": I try and collect every seed so they don't seed around, and no matter what I do hundreds show up every spring, insinuate themselves into the tightest buns and choice cushion plants (I end up destroying both cushion and Scutellaria trying to extract them)...it is infuriating!

Kelaidis, what do you do with the seed? I have tried to sow quite a few species but never had any success. They don't germinate, maybe the seed are too old. But I never give up hope!

Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

Lori S.
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Scutellaria hypericifolia, in the crevice garden:
   

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

RickR
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The Scutellaria genus certainly has a wide variety of leaf shapes.  Every species shown in this thread has different leaves.  The foliage of Scutellaria nevadensis orientalis subsp. sevanensis is sort of similar to a weed we call henbit.  In my haste, I almost pulled it out!

                    Scutellaria nevadensis orientalis subsp. sevanensis

                 

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Lori S.
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Nice plant - I love those yellow scutes.  I wonder if it is really Scutellaria nevadensis though?  As I attempted to find out more about that species, I looked at The Plant List, which says S. nevadensis is a synonym for S. angustifolia ssp. micrantha:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-188906

S. angustifolia ssp. micrantha is one of the North American species with purple-blue flowers and entire leaves:
http://linnet.geog.ubc.ca/ShowDBImage/Gallery.aspx?latinName=Scutellaria...
http://plants.usda.gov/java/largeImage?imageID=scana2_001_avp.tif

If I may suggest it, I think yours, with its yellow flowers and scalloped leaves, is more likely a form of Scutellaria orientalis?

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

RickR
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You're right, Lori: clearly, it is not nevadensis/angustifolia ssp. micrantha.  Checking my records, I received it as Scutellaria sevanensis (how did that happen? ;D), and I see the valid name is actually Scutellaria orientalis subsp. sevanensis.  Duly noted, and thanks.

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

RickR
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I had hoped Scutellaria baicalensis would be a little less gangly in its second year in the garden.  But no. The soil is very well drained, but richer than what might be best, and if it would only stop raining... Yesterday, I received and inch of rain in less than half an hour! But it does have good flower power.

       

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Lori S.
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Very attractive! 
I think I have figured out what I am growing as "S. baicalensis" (that I showed last year)... possibly either S. zhongdianensis or S. altaica.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

deesen
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Here's what I have as Scuttellaria orientalis photographed last year, maybe it's a variety, can any one help? The other day I bought a plant of S. suffrutescens'Texas Rose' which I have yet to find a place for in the garden (as you do!)

My S orientalis is nothing like as good as it was last year but then I have no real idea how to grow them. I have it in a little rock bed in full sun. Any advice greatly appreciated.

David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b

Lori S.
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Hi, David,
Here's a key to S. orientalis that might be helpful.  (I have not pored over it with your plant in mind yet.)
http://vanherbaryum.yyu.edu.tr/flora/famgenustur/la/sc/sa/index.htm

It looks very well grown!  Very nice silvery foliage. 

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

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