My climate is IDEAL for Ligularia....if only I didn't have the slugs! I can only assume slugs and snails do not occur in wild areas where Ligularia and Cremanthodium grow.....they are certainly slug fodder in my area.
St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada
1800 mm precipitation per year
Todd - cannot tell if basal leaves have long winged stalks, which is characteristic of C.arnicoides; the stems leaves become progressively smaller, more pointed and clasp the stem. Helpful to have images of both stem and basal leaves. I attach images of what I believe to be a leaf of C.arnicoides preserved in the Kohli Memorial Herbarium of Himalayan plants. Unfortunately, flower-colour, plant height, dimensions of foliage etc. whilst important as to garden-merit, are not particularly useful characteristics in plant-identification! Plant identification has traditionally relied heavily upon characteristics which can be examined closely on dried, pressed specimens such as numbers and shapes of floral parts - these attributes are often not detectable from most photos taken (however beautiful the image may be). Some digital cameras can now record such detail but such shots have limited appeal!!
Have added images of flowering specimens of C.ellisii and C.decaisnei. Shall post some images of Himalayan Inulas incl. I.racemosa plus Ligularias incl. the magnificent Ligularia amplexicaulis (which typically grows in the shade of large boulders, so perhaps, despite its size, qualifies as a 'rock-garden' specimen). Must return to preparing my August Himalayan Plant Association Journal before I depart for this year's expedition to 'Little Tibet'........