Alpines in April

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Alpines in April

Lets see if the forum lets me post photos now... gave up after a while on my last visit- got some funny error message and was referred to some 3rd party policing agency which I never heard back from...

 

Only a few rock gardens are (almost) fully  out of the snow, and those were largely shovelled!- others showing some peaks, with a bit of fresh snow yesterday/today, and maybe some more over the next couple of days...

I'll just try one photo to start to see if I'm allowed...

Sedum spathuligolium Cape Blanco according to the tag- garden centre plant from last year- though it seems a bit too strongly coloured for that clone? I think there is another name for the really purple forms.. anyway, I wasn't at all sure it would be hardy, but it is looking good so far, though sometimes spring is as dangerous as winter.

Sedum spathulifolium Cape Blanco Sedum spathulifolium Cape Blanco

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Gee, seems to have worked! Not sure if this one is quite an alpine or not? but these didn't fit in the flowering now category...

Also a garden centre purchase last year, as Delosperma nubigenum- I forget now what this should really be, some of these small hardy delos are not even delos....looks like it made the winter..

Delosperma 'nubigenum'

 

Bought last year- these are cropping up for sale everywhere the last couple of years, currently available in little ceramic ducks and other pots for Easter- Campanula Get Mee (not fond of that name! is it even a cultivar, or just a marketing plan for the regular species??)  Campanula portenschlagiana. It was planted out rather late, I think but flowered in ground anyway, and looks like it is set to take off quickly, even though it is not long out of the snow. Supposedly they can be rather spready, but I've given it a spot where it's welcome to make a nice patch..

Campanula 'Get Mee'  Campanula portenschlagiana

 

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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I had a bit of a disaster last spring with Draba seeds- I put the pots outside, in baggies while it was still cool out.. The seeds started germinating en masse and then either they got too hot in the baggies on a warm day or too cold on a cold night (probably the former, being Drabas) and were mostly wiped out.. luckily a few survived, or maybe they were just late germinators. in any case, I got a few per pot of several species... maybe just as well, I would have had a bit more of a time accomodating all those seedlings. though wouldn't have minded a few more...lol

I got these second hand from another forumist (thanks, Krish!), and I'm not totally sure of the origin- garden/exchange whatever.. so I guess time will tell if they are true to type, and I will have to see if I can tell what all the seedlings are, as there were more plants than tags..lol

These should be Draba dedeana.. rosettes are under 1 inch across.. there was a hint of buds showing as soon as the snow melted...

Draba dedeana Draba dedeana

 

This one is tagged as Draba aizoides.

Draba aizoides Draba aizoides

 

Not sure what tag thse belong to, I think the third option is Draba brunifolia, but they could also be more aizoides..you can tell I don't know these well yet..lol

Draba Draba

 

 

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Lori S.
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Well done with Sedum spathulifolium 'Cape Blanco' - I've never had that survive the winter here.

Things are melting out again after yet another snow fall.

Some pics... Buds on a not-very-hardy Draba - it's always about half dead in spring; Silene acaulis leafing out; buds on Saxifraga kusnezowiana which is apparently a variety of S. juniperifolia:

    

Buds on a variety of things, starting with Smelowskia calycina - not sure if these will really have any merit in the garden; Androsace lactea; Saxifraga oppositifolia:

    

Thlaspi bellidifolia seedling from 2013; rabbit-nipped Saxifraga sancta; Rhodiola rhodantha:

    

Orostachys spinosa and Arabis procurrens 'Variegata'; Erigeron trifidus(?) or maybe it's just some sort of E. compositus?; Draba tomentosa:

    

Synthyris pinnnatifida v. canescens (apparently now S. dissecta) - I hoped there'd be some action from it this year but no sign of buds yet.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

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I was curious whether the Sedum was hardy in Calgary.. this is my first time trying it..

Always interesting to see what you have growing- lots of cool things there!  Even if you decide the Smelowskia calycina  isn't a keeper, I'd be interested in seeds if it makes any..

That's some colour on that Arabis! I got a small plant of A caucasica locally last year, it was severely munched by something- I suppose flea beetles since those are what goes after Brassicaceae? It survived, but didn't look great for a time... will see if it survived and how it does this year.. maybe I need to find a little Allium to plant with it..

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Lori S.
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Interesting... my Cheirantus roseus get attacked in spring by what I've assumed are some miniscule sort of flea beetle.  No blooms as a result - guess I should try covering them.

I could certainly send you some of the Arabis if you like it, and should be able to get seed of Smelowskia, too, either from my plants or from the wild.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

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I presumed flea beetles based on something I read on a heritage vegetable website. Doing a bit more reading now, I was surprised to see they (different species, I guess) can attack a range of plants- i've only seen them on Brassicaceae here- the Arabis, mustard plants and some Chinese vegetable like tatsoi in the vegetable garden. We don't usually get too many insects out of control here since we have so many other insects to eat them, and a lot of birds, but these plants were all quite heavily affected in spite of not being planted in large numbers are near to one another, nor in monocultures.

Ironically, many of the recommendations for control are actually counterproductive, from a permaculture perspective: keeping a bare area around plantings and making sure there is no plant litter on the ground for them to overwinter in. This means you will also remove any habitat for beneficial insects, so when the flea beetles arrive and breed fast, you are guaranteed that the beneficial insects will be unable to breed fast enough to be of use... I will be ignoring those recommendations...lol

Of more interest were recommendations to plant Apiaceae- flowers of that family, as well as composites, are known to be supporters of beneficial insects. Maybe one of the best ideas for the rock garden as opposed to veg patch, was to plant Iberis near affected plants! Probably more useful in the veg garden is the suggestion to plant some of their favourite plants to draw them away from cole crops etc-- though not so sure if that will work when their favourites (eg mustard) are what I wanted to grow...lol Maybe I will have to grow mustards as a fall crop, since they diminish later in the year...

Waving a fly paper or sticky trap over a plant is supposed to work very well, and all the usual home made sprays- garlic/onions/chiles/mint etc.. I wonder if planting Alliums and /or Labiatae would work as well.. garlic and /or mint spray and waving some sticky traps over the plants would probably be my first efforts...

 

By the way, a piece of the Arabis would be great, thanks! I guess they grow from cuttings?

 

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One of the ways garlic and onion sprays work is to mask the scent of the plant material it's applied to.   The idea is that then the pest insects aren't attracted to the host plants so they don't find them, rather than the garlic/onion releling them.  If this is the case, planting garlic or onions near won't work.  I guess you'll need to test it out, Cohan.

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

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There's a theory that mixed plantings help to confuse insects looking for specific plants, and that proximity to scented plants such as Alliums gives enough scent masking to help deter pests, and some even theorise that plants are exchanging chemicals in the rhizosphere. Can't remember now whether there is any solid science behind this, but I think the more varied the plantings the better anyway! Of course I'd try to find some nice miniature Alliums for the rock garden, which is a good objective anyway!... Meantime, I'm more likely to spray some garlic to be safe while the polyculture is established ;)

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Lori S.
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After some nice weather (and some snow too!) this weekend...

Saxifraga oppositifolia; first Pulsatilla vulgaris to bloom:

  

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

IMYoung
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Cohan - good to see your plants are re-appearing from under the snow at last.

 

Lori : "Synthyris pinnnatifida v. canescens (apparently now S. dissecta) - I hoped there'd be some action from it this year but no sign of buds yet."

It's still early in the year for buds, I hope .Good luck!

Ian  and/or Margaret Young ( -here it is usually Margaret)

Aberdeen , North East Scotland, UK
Zone 8a

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