Chionophila jamesii

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Kelaidis
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I have this in a trough where it has refused to bloom for several years: I think it will prove challenging in hot climates.

In nature, this generally grows above 12,000 in snowmelt habitats (not far from the likes of Ranunculus adoneus, another challenging plant to grow)....the off-beigy white color and singed lips are a tad off putting: I remember finding its cousin in Idaho years ago: C. tweedyi has vibrant lilac coloring, but is rather tiny and willowy in its presence.

I guess this is basically sour grapes: despite the smallness and borderline tawdriness, I would have loved to say I grew either of these well!

For every minion of the peaks there are a dozen steppe children growing in the dry Continental heart of all hemispheres still unknown to horticulture.

Anne Spiegel
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Definitely not for a hot humid climate like mine.  I think the color quite lovely, pale creamy white with a fine brown line at the edge, quite subtle.  We can't all be kniphofias, Panayoti.  I found it growing at 12,000' + in the Mosquito Range, not far from Claytonia megarrhiza, Papaver kluanense and Polemonium viscosum.    It keeps very good company, and I'd be thrilled to be able to grow any one of them!  To me, Chionophila tweedyi seems to perch on an inferior branch of the family tree.

Lori S.
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Paul wrote:

A rather pretty plant, which I assume is related to snapdragons?  Or is that just a superficial resemblance?

Well, I guess it used to be thought to be related to snapdragons...  but, if I'm interpreting this all correctly, it seems Antirrhinum (snapdragon) has now been taken out of Scrophulariaceae (which includes Chionophila) and placed in a different family, Plantaginaceae.
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantaginaceae

Chionophila is closely related to Penstemon though (re. Penstemons, Robert Nold).

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Paul T
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Wonderful Lori, and just when I'd worked out how to spell Scrophulariaceae!  :rolleyes:

Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Mark McD
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Spiegel wrote:

Definitely not for a hot humid climate like mine.  I think the color quite lovely, pale creamy white with a fine brown line at the edge, quite subtle.  We can't all be kniphofias, Panayoti.

I held my tongue regarding this plant, because I've never seen it in real life, and sometimes plants in the flesh can be far more fetching than they might appear in photos.  I have to agree with Panayoti, at least based on photos I've seen, the flower color is a bit off putting, the brown lines on the lips giving the impression of a flower going over and singed by heat of the day. :-X

Spiegel wrote:

To me, Chionophila tweedyi seems to perch on an inferior branch of the family tree.

And that branch is a tiny twig indeed, as the family tree is very short, just two species.

Mark McDonough
Massachusetts, USA, near the New Hampshire border USDA Zone 5
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Anne Spiegel
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Mark, you'll just have to go see it in person.  It's getting a bad rap here.  Unfortunately I don't have a digital picture, but a really nice slide.

cohan
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I'm very late to this thread- but currently debating whether to add one or the other of the two species to a seed order from Alplains.. both seem very charming, though I'm leaning a bit toward tweedyi..

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Anne Spiegel
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Try them both, but if you can only get one my vote would be for C. jamesii, far superior to my eye.

cohan
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Thanks, Anne; I'd love to try both eventually, but am trying to keep this order very small, since I am also making a couple of other orders...lol

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

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