Penstemon fasciculatus environment?

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Weintraub
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Penstemon fasciculatus environment?

I bought two P. fasciculatus plants at the Denver Botanic Garden sale last month and hope to put them in the ground today. Turns out the color is inappropriate for the intended location and I'm considering a couple of other ones.

Where does this penstemon grow? Soil? Elevation? Solar aspect?

Any help is appreciated.

Lori S.
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Joined: 2009-10-27

All that's said about it in Bob Nold's Penstemons is that it is native to limestone areas in southwestern Chihuahua.

Here are some accounts from the U. of Arizona Herbarium; the full descriptions can be downloaded if you have spreadsheet software (e.g. Excel) on your computer:
http://loco.biosci.arizona.edu/herbarium/db/get_specimens.php?taxon=Pens...

In case you don't have Excel, though, here are the details:

[tr][td]
country state_province county_parish locality habitat
Mexico Chihuahua         Guadalupe Y Calvo Tecolote
Mpio. Guadalupe y Calvo
Chih.
Mexico Chihuahua         Temosachi Nabogame
Rfo Mayo Region
Mpio. TTmosachi
Chih.
Mexico Chihuahua Along road from La Lobera to Chinipas
about 2.5 mi by road
E of La Lobera
Rfo Mayo region
Chih. On edge of draw
Mexico Sonora 3 km E of El Chiribo
Rfo Mayo Region
Son. Growing on slope
Mexico Sonora 3 km east of Chiribo. 27∞19'N
108∞41'W  Elevation 1600-1700 m. Pine-oak forest with some Dodonaea.
Mexico Sonora 3 km E of El Chiribo
Rfo Mayo Region
Son.
Mexico Sonora        Yecora 2 km W of Maicoba
Mpio. YTcora
Son. Rhyolitic rock outcrop open with Quercus coccolobifolia
         Q. viminea
Arctostaphylos pungens
pines

Well, I guess that gives some idea of elevation, and range of habitat, and suggests that it is not particular to limestone, if it also grows on acidic rocks (rhyolite).  There doesn't seem to be too much information available about it, overall...

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

penstemon
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Joined: 2010-06-24

If these are the Plant Select penstemons, I believe these are offsprings of Meyers's hybrid 'Mexicana' (though the trade seems to insist on saying it's 'Mexicali', which it ain't), P. palmeri x P. parryi x a hybrid in Section Fasciculus.
Like most "monsoonal obligates" they prefer considerable moisture after mid summer. As garden plants they are probably more successful than most species of penstemon in the long run.

Bob

extreme western edge of Denver, Colorado; elevation 1705.6 meters, average annual precipitation 30cm; refuses to look at thermometer if it threatens to go below -17C

Weintraub
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These plants are from seed collected by Mike Kintgen. They seem happy in their temporary home. I'll move them to a new location next spring where the red flowers will show up well.

Barbara Weintraub
Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
6700 feet elevation - high and dry
nominally zone 5b; i think it's closer to 6a

penstemon
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Oh. Well, the same thing applies, since flowering is triggered by moisture; in this case, by the Mexican monsoon. Chihuahua has a monsoonal flora, as does New Mexico and Arizona (Colorado does not). In Denver, some of the "monsoonal obligates" respond to spring moisture and then stop flowering by mid summer. Some plants eventually just give up and die, unless they're irrigated. 
Early 19th century penstemon breeding was done with Mexican species (with the moisture-loving P. cobaea thrown in for flower size) in England and France because of the willingness to flower in summer-wet climates.

Bob

extreme western edge of Denver, Colorado; elevation 1705.6 meters, average annual precipitation 30cm; refuses to look at thermometer if it threatens to go below -17C

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