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Lori S.
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Hoy wrote:

Lori wrote:

Déjà vu is just the French phrase for the feeling that something has been seen before.  :)

I know that ;) I'm talking about the strange signs jà between the j and the à! and these: following my name!!
They're like squares with a two zeros and a number in (the numbers are 17, 11, 17, 05, 12 and 05). Thought they were some ascii code. Don't yousee them?

No, I don't.  All I see is the semi-colon right after your name, followed on the next line by the link I posted.   ??? ???

Edit:  I was experimenting in the post, prior to sending it, trying to remember what keystrokes were used for acute and grave accents, and did type out a string of symbols, but I deleted it all prior to sending... that's what it sounds like you are seeing, but I can't imagine why you might be seeing it after I deleted it, and why I can't see it now?  One of the mysteries of computers, perhaps?  I have a Mac - do you happen to have a PC?  I do notice weirdness sometimes when linking from Macs to PCs at work... ?

Bah, it's all black magic!  ;D

Edit:  Trond, I went back and retyped the "deja vu" bit... I hope that has corrected it and removed the weird symbols from your view!?

Edit:  Errr, okay, I guess it's something to do with the keystrokes for the accents then, not the other stuff I deleted.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

RickR
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Joined: 2009-09-21

You are not going crazy, Trond.  I see them, too.

There must have been something that Lori left behind in her message, or something the computer did itself as a result, that our computers don't recognize.  Consequently, another symbol was put in its place.  I'm sure they must mean something in computer lingo, because I see them exactly as you describe.

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

AmyO
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And I am NOT seeing them! How strange!

Amy Olmsted
Hubbardton, VT, Zone 4

RickR
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Lori wrote:

s... a modest start towards building up a bit of a reference database, and carrying on from some efforts in last year's seed season.  Any thoughts on this?  

Could we make a separate Seed and Seedling photo gallery in our Wiki?
--- That would be awesomely cool!  8)

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

cohan
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AmyO wrote:

And I am NOT seeing them! How strange!

Lori's message showed properly for me, with the french accents in place, and no extra symbols; I do know the sort of symbols Trond is talking about though-- I have seen them sometimes when viewing pages or words in other languages and clearly my operating system or browser or something is not recognising them.. some conflict between different systems I guess, that some of us are seeing proper French and some not...

BTW, my keyboard can be set to various formats, to make those accents, but then they displace other regular characters- one would have to learn a whole other keyboard (the other characters are not marked on the keys!).. when I need to make 'foreign' characters, I use this:
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/ALTchrc.html

west central alberta, canada; just under 1000m; record temps:min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F; http://picasaweb.google.ca/cactuscactus  http://urbanehillbillycanada.blogspot.com/

Lori S.
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Joined: 2009-10-27

Yes, I use similar guides... for Macs, though.

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Hoy
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Joined: 2009-12-15

Lori wrote:

No, I don't.  All I see is the semi-colon right after your name, followed on the next line by the link I posted.   ??? ???

Edit:  I was experimenting in the post, prior to sending it, trying to remember what keystrokes were used for acute and grave accents, and did type out a string of symbols, but I deleted it all prior to sending... that's what it sounds like you are seeing, but I can't imagine why you might be seeing it after I deleted it, and why I can't see it now?  One of the mysteries of computers, perhaps?  I have a Mac - do you happen to have a PC?  I do notice weirdness sometimes when linking from Macs to PCs at work... ?

Bah, it's all black magic!  ;D

Edit:  Trond, I went back and retyped the "deja vu" bit... I hope that has corrected it and removed the weird symbols from your view!?

Edit:  Errr, okay, I guess it's something to do with the keystrokes for the accents then, not the other stuff I deleted.

Lori, I have a Mac :-) and your retyping moved the weird symbols in front of the sentence  ;D ;D
Don't bother- I was just curious and wondered if you had used some symbols I didn't have ;)

Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

RickR
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Joined: 2009-09-21

Good germination information in this pdf for those wanting to germinate eriogonums native to Utah:
--- E. alatum
--- E. bicolor
--- E. brevicaule
--- E. corymbosum
--- E. heracleoides
--- E. jamesii
--- E. ovalifolium
--- E. racemosum
--- E. shokleyi
--- E. umbellatum

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCoQ...

Rick Rodich    zone 4a.    Annual precipitation ~24 inches
near Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

Lori S.
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Joined: 2009-10-27

RickR wrote:

Could we make a separate Seed and Seedling photo gallery in our Wiki?
--- That would be awesomely cool!  8)

That sounds like a great idea!
Until that, or something like it comes about, here are some new ones and some updates on others:

There is a definite familial similarity between seedlings of the locally native Saussurea nuda var. densa and Saussurea nupuripoensis... (both of these have been easy to germinate... if there is a challenge, it will be in growing them!)

Here is Saussurea nuda var. densa; the seeds germinated in 9 days in room temperature conditions:

Here is Saussurea nupuripoensis which germinated in 5-6 days at room temperature; the seeds were from Vojtech Holubec, and collected in Zhdanko, Sakhalin, Russia at 400m elevation from a scree habitat  (description:  "caespitose plant, 20cm high, lanceolate tomentose leaves, lilac flowers in terminal cymes, 2011 seed").

Arenaria pseudoacantholimon; seeds also from Vojtech Holubec, ex. Palandoken, Turkey at 2300m elevation, from limestone scree (description:  "compact cushions like Acantholimon, 5-10cm wide, spiny leaves, 8 mm long, white flowers on thin 10-15 cm stems"; seeds collected in 2011):

Acantholimon saxifragiforme is taking on an acantholimon-like look as the true leaves emerge:

What very timely references to starting Eriogonum, Rick.   I will need to peruse those too!

Lori
Calgary, Alberta, Canada - Zone 3
-30 C to +30 C (rarely!); elevation ~1130m; annual precipitation ~40 cm

Hoy
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Joined: 2009-12-15

RickR wrote:

Good germination information in this pdf for those wanting to germinate eriogonums native to Utah:

Thanks again, Rick! I have about 20 pck of eriogonums :rolleyes:

Trond
Rogaland, Norway - with cool, often rainy summers  (29C max) and mild, often rainy winters (180 cm/year)!

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